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Wombat
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I'm not sure any of the credit scenes should be considered canonical.
IIRC, while Fallout's history had states, they were conglomerated into Commonwealths a century before the war.
I'm not sure anyone would call Canada the 51st State, as opposed to the 14th Commonwealth.
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I will admit that while I was hoping for cameos this season, I expected them from the New Vegas cast, not from F1. Then again, if we are getting heavy Enclave action in S3, it does make sense that they would start peppering in characters now.
IIRC, while Fallout's history had states, they were conglomerated into Commonwealths a century before the war.
I'm not sure anyone would call Canada the 51st State, as opposed to the 14th Commonwealth.
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I will admit that while I was hoping for cameos this season, I expected them from the New Vegas cast, not from F1. Then again, if we are getting heavy Enclave action in S3, it does make sense that they would start peppering in characters now.
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Its not even cannon to the own show, I think someone was just having a jab at IRL atm. Blonde chicks ID said United States Annexed Territory Canada
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In terms of that after credit scene, the "Big 51" was just painted over the word "Canada". Same with the "Little America" being painted over the Canadian billboard sign.
I suspect one reason they haven't gone into that bit of lore about the states is because the show has already referred to The Commonwealth in terms of the BOS chapter, with specific reference to the Boston/Massachusetts area (which is a Commonwealth IRL). But if all the state clusters were referred to Commonwealths, it would confuse the matter considering this show makes frequent use of flashbacks.
I suspect one reason they haven't gone into that bit of lore about the states is because the show has already referred to The Commonwealth in terms of the BOS chapter, with specific reference to the Boston/Massachusetts area (which is a Commonwealth IRL). But if all the state clusters were referred to Commonwealths, it would confuse the matter considering this show makes frequent use of flashbacks.
Hoss
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just started watching this last week. Great show. I never played any fallouts. I was aware the games existed but that's about it. So I'm wondering if all the people claiming it's garbage are people who loved the game.
There are a lot of things I can tell must be game references, but other than not understanding how the whole ghoul thing works, I don't feel lost at all. They are doing a great job of not assuming everyone already knows the story.
There are a lot of things I can tell must be game references, but other than not understanding how the whole ghoul thing works, I don't feel lost at all. They are doing a great job of not assuming everyone already knows the story.
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eh games are great, the show is great. Don't get caught up in game is cannon BS and enjoy both for their merits.
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Wombat
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Basically, the game fandom's opposition boils down to two (and a half) issues:
1) This isn't an adaptation, this is in-universe. Unlike The Last of Us, where they decided "Hey, let's film the videogame cut scenes with real people!" but the show has no bearing on the videogames themselves, Fallout is canonical - this is effectively Fallout 5. So if the showrunners decide "Capitalists blew up the world because they thought losing 100% of their market and 99% of their investments is a smart move (and also anyone that isn't a Communist is a wrong-thinking monster)", then that's the official backstory for all games in the past and going forward.
2) But they've also said all (and no) game choices are canonical. Fallout has always been a post-apocalyptic role playing game, namely your choices in the game decide which version of civilization will rise from the ashes. The show has decided it won't invalidate anyone's choices in those games in declaring "The 75% of you that didn't choose side X were wrong"... by invalidating 100% of the players' choices by saying "Actually, whatever you picked, it doesn't matter, everything blew up regardless of your choices. All of your actions were meaningless."
2.5) Fallout's been made by two distinct groups of people: Interplay (later Obsidian) who made the West Coast based Fallout 1, 2, and later New Vegas, and Bethesda, who bought the rights and made the East Coast based Fallout 3 and 4. Virtually everything in this Bethesda-branded show so far has involved material not made by Bethesda - and everything blown up also isn't Bethesda's material.
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