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4chan has gone rampant anti-Barnes. But to me its pretty laughable, name a single lawyer that isnt a piece of shit. I know a few lawyers I like on a personal level but professionally they are all tyrannosaurus douches. Goes with the territory. Youd be a fool not to hire someone willing to push their own grandma down a flight of stairs if it means they would win your case. courts are a blood sport.


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And it's not just the trial lawyers, either. I've worked with dozens of lawyers in my career and they're all fucking idiots or assholes. Mostly idiots though (although you kind of have to be to spend all that time and money on law school and end up doing the same job as a dumbass like me with only an undergrad business degree).

Most lawyers understanding of the law has been pretty poor in my experience.
 
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Gravel said:
And it's not just the trial lawyers, either. I've worked with dozens of lawyers in my career and they're all fucking idiots or assholes. Mostly idiots though (although you kind of have to be to spend all that time and money on law school and end up doing the same job as a dumbass like me with only an undergrad business degree).

Most lawyers understanding of the law has been pretty poor in my experience.
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Best way to test this, for any profession, is to ask someone why something is done the way it is. You can short-circuit a lot of people this way.

8/10 times, the answer is because this is how i was taught to do it. We just don't teach critical thinking at all anymore.
 
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Best way to test this, for any profession, is to ask someone why something is done the way it is. You can short-circuit a lot of people this way.

8/10 times, the answer is because this is how i was taught to do it. We just don't teach critical thinking at all anymore.
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I do continuous improvement initiatives at work a lot, and so many of them start with me asking “why do we do this process this way” and the answer is “Idk, that’s how we’ve always done it.” Then people are blown away that we can change it and come up with a better way, and many of the things are so simple and “duh” worthy.

You are correct.
 
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I do continuous improvement initiatives at work a lot, and so many of them start with me asking “why do we do this process this way” and the answer is “Idk, that’s how we’ve always done it.” Then people are blown away that we can change it and come up with a better way, and many of the things are so simple and “duh” worthy.

You are correct.
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In 2008 I started working at a new company and found various production discrepancies between field and sales.

I went to the production accountant and started asking her how she determined the natural gas liquid yields from the gas stream. She showed me a spreadsheet used for the calculation. I asked her how often it was updated. She told me it was given to her when she started 5 years ago and had never been updated.

I didn't even know what to say. That shit has to be updated at the VERY least annually, and more often depending on the variation in expected products. But she was just another fucking drone putting in time.

At that point liquids prices were SO HIGH she probably cost the company millions.......because she gave zero shits about what she did. And there was little accountability.

Anyway - Free Rittenhouse! Hopefully full exoneration today.
 
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In 2008 I started working at a new company and found various production discrepancies between field and sales.

I went to the production accountant and started asking her how she determined the natural gas liquid yields from the gas stream. She showed me a spreadsheet used for the calculation. I asked her how often it was updated. She told me it was given to her when she started 5 years ago and had never been updated.

I didn't even know what to say. That shit has to be updated at the VERY least annually, and more often depending on the variation in expected products. But she was just another fucking drone putting in time.

At that point liquids prices were SO HIGH she probably cost the company millions.......because she gave zero shits about what she did. And there was little accountability.

Anyway - Free Rittenhouse! Hopefully full exoneration today.
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Sounds like everyone only did exactly as told. Best way to cover your ass at work, I think? Touch less things, be held accountable for less?
 
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Christ you guys remind me of that guy that flew in to teach grounding and bounding a while back. Dude was supposedly some subject matter expert who worked on nuclear plants. Class was full of electrical engineers and electronic technicians. People designing circuits and tracing signals as their day to day. Course was just a check in the box type deal but we were all looking forward to have some of the strange current behaviors explained. Hell, the whole charade turned into who could ask why the most basic shit happened and he couldn't explain the why of anything. "We just do this and it works" was his go to answer whenever someone asked the why and how of things. Grounding loops were completely baffling to him but he knew they were bad and to be avoided.
 
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Yeah but at the same time making those kind of drastic and very helpful changes is how you catapult yourself ahead in a career. Most people just want to clock in and clock out though so they don't do this and are shocked that they spend year after year getting a measly 3% raise.

Fortune favors the bold.
 
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Even if he’s eventually fully acquitted , there has been no justice for Kyle. We allowed this to happen to someone underage while allowing another one who shot up s school to get get released on bail the next day. Wisconsinites should be ashamed of their cowardice and selfishness.
 
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I've had Rekieta on most of this and last week while working, and I gotta say this shit is frustrating as fuck. I know being up there and in the middle of it puts a spotlight on you, on everything you say and do, but I have little patience for that excuse - your JOB that you get PAID FOR is to argue in front of people and be quick on your feet. I just do not understand how Rittenhouse got these bargain basement baffoons. I really feel for the kid. Would kill to have been a fly on the wall when he/his family made the decision to retain these fucksticks.

At least Binger and Fatlock have the excuse of being evil.
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Well we only have one side of the story on that. But they were probably dubious about him doing it for free. It's silly but it's a hammered into us that you get what you pay for.
 
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Sounds like everyone only did exactly as told. Best way to cover your ass at work, I think? Touch less things, be held accountable for less?
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Yeah, like TJT said, most people are sheep and just follow the path of least resistance and accept zero risk. The issue I described wasn't just the production accountant's problem but also the prior engineers who never checked a single number or cared if there were discrepancies, and even the manager's problem for never asking for an audit when the prices went through the roof.

I have always strived for the best, and insist on constantly learning and improving. Seeing others just slide through is maddening. At major corporations, performance-based bonus programs went away a while ago, to be replaced by blanket percentages for all employees, with small bumps for exceptional service. It drove me crazy that Sally the brain-dead production accountant who barely did her job got the same base "bonus" as I did. So what happens? The weaker-willed employees who were still at least trying to improve see Sally being rewarded at the same level as them and just give up trying. This is Socialism in action in the wild.

The last time I was rewarded extra for hard work was 2011.

Edit - By the by I was manager of that group within a year. That is how shit that entire group had become. Working manager, since I seemed to be the only person actually doing anything half the time.
 
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Never know what kind of landmine is waiting for you at a job, or what bomb is gonna land on your desk (routinely, when walking into an established clique who has run off the last 5+ people they hired)
 
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Yeah, like TJT said, most people are sheep and just follow the path of least resistance and accept zero risk. The issue I described wasn't just the production accountant's problem but also the prior engineers who never checked a single number or cared if there were discrepancies, and even the manager's problem for never asking for an audit when the prices went through the roof.

I have always strived for the best, and insist on constantly learning and improving. Seeing others just slide through is maddening. At major corporations, performance-based bonus programs went away a while ago, to be replaced by blanket percentages for all employees, with small bumps for exceptional service. It drove me crazy that Sally the brain-dead production accountant who barely did her job got the same base "bonus" as I did. So what happens? The weaker-willed employees who were still at least trying to improve see Sally being rewarded at the same level as them and just give up trying. This is Socialism in action in the wild.

The last time I was rewarded extra for hard work was 2011.
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It's called the catch of the good student. A kid that gets all As is usually ignored but when D student gets a C they get praised to high heaven. Now I'm not saying you shouldn't praise improvement and I know the A student will have great opportunities but they also deserve some recognition. Usually life provides that later.
 
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Yeah, like TJT said, most people are sheep and just follow the path of least resistance and accept zero risk. The issue I described wasn't just the production accountant's problem but also the prior engineers who never checked a single number or cared if there were discrepancies, and even the manager's problem for never asking for an audit when the prices went through the roof.

I have always strived for the best, and insist on constantly learning and improving. Seeing others just slide through is maddening. At major corporations, performance-based bonus programs went away a while ago, to be replaced by blanket percentages for all employees, with small bumps for exceptional service. It drove me crazy that Sally the brain-dead production accountant who barely did her job got the same base "bonus" as I did. So what happens? The weaker-willed employees who were still at least trying to improve see Sally being rewarded at the same level as them and just give up trying. This is Socialism in action in the wild.

The last time I was rewarded extra for hard work was 2011.
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Yeah my company does this. You get a X% bonus as part of your comp but you always get the X% bonus no matter what you do. So its more like a way to raise a base salary without actually raising it. I am sure there is some accounting reason for doing this. Outside of the performance based bonuses you get at other companies.
 
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Even if he’s eventually fully acquitted , there has been no justice for Kyle. We allowed this to happen to someone underage while allowing another one who shot up s school to get get released on bail the next day. Wisconsinites should be ashamed of their cowardice and selfishness.
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This.

Even if he was acquitted it was by the skin of his teeth and it cost him $3M+ in donations just to survive the process. His bail was a million dollars. School shooter in Dallas was under $100k.
 
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So now folks are saying the footage the prosecution monkeyed with and handed over was shit they downloaded from Fox News and cropped out the banner and the chyrons?

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I'm reminded of the Duke Lacrosse kids that were prosecuted for rape or the investigation of Richard Jewel. At least the Duke boys got to sue everyone and the prosecutor was disbarred.
 
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Judge wants Prosecution under oath. This is a clownshow. The fact this isn't thrown out by now is fucking unbelievable.

 
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Yeah my company does this. You get a X% bonus as part of your comp but you always get the X% bonus no matter what you do. So its more like a way to raise a base salary without actually raising it. I am sure there is some accounting reason for doing this. Outside of the performance based bonuses you get at other companies.
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Ugh, this reminds me of my last year when I was a supervisor. We had our pay pool (department heads get together to hash out who gets what percent raises, with a limited amount to be given out). I argued for two of my people who saved the government literally tens of millions of dollars, and they slowly got whittled away. In fact, the one, went from getting the 2nd highest payout, to getting literally nothing (it was after everyone agreed to it in the paypool, my boss's boss called me and said we were changing it to zero).

I was just like, this whole process is bullshit. Government can't do anything right.
 
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