Girls who broke your heart thread

tad10 said:

First off: bias alert I actually run a small dating services as a side business in LA. So I"m not totally disinterested in this post.

Still I find posts like this annoying - especially with shows like the pickup artist on TV

I know its an older post but wanted to comment on it anyway -- feel free to give me the -interwebs -- because I think he"s the same guy who did the "I hate you all for dating hot chicks" post.

If you really, really, really want to date and/or marry a hot girl you can. But depending on where you are in life it can take a lot of fucking work and some money.

The problem is that so many guys just don"t want to go out there and do what"s necessary: pay Mystery his $900 bucks for his class, hire a wing girl to go out with you to clubs, pay the $ for nice threads -- girls care more about what company made your jeans than their size.

I"m not sure why guys give up so easily - maybe they don"t want to admit they need help?

Now you"ll need a decent job of some kind to pay for this shit -- but decent doesn"t mean you need to be a doctor or lawyer or venture capitalist. You"ve got a steady job at Home Depot? You can get an attractive girl.

But you tell me that none of that works here for you? Start surfing amigos.com and the other foreign girl websites. If American girls aren"t buying what you"re selling -- I assure you there is a hot girl in Chile or Thailand or Russian who will. But again you"ll have to shell out money for the site and then to go and visit said girl.

Not easy, but totally doable. Take control of your destiny.

Men, especially American men, never have to settle when it comes to girls.

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This is a really interesting post with a lot of good points.

I think what tad is saying is basically to improve yourself as much as you can first, and then go for the ladies. This is a great point. In fact, you could almost think of it as just focus on working on yourself, and when you quit worrying about getting a girl, the girls will come. Work out, get ripped, shave, get a good hair cut, get your teeth whitened, quit wearing shitty clothes, clean your car, AND also do things like read books about women, understand how they think, listen to the Pickup Podcast"s material on inner game (also google "inner game") (their material on being a 10 is second to none, it literally is LIFE CHANGING. It"s on iTunes, just search for it or Google it), etc. (I"m not accusing you of this, just in general.)

I guarantee you that you are not as good at talking to girls as you think you are, if you were you"d have the good looking girl now. Again this is no flame, we ALL have room for improvement (if only I practiced 1/10th of what I preach..) Basically you have to work on your inside and your outside. You need to evaluate every part of *you* and see what you can improve. (Shit, you could even go to the mall and ask ugly chicks what they find unattractive about you. Tell them you"re working on yourself and get some input, who gives a shit right?)

It"s easy to say "Oh, well I"d rather a girl who doesn"t care about any of that stuff." That"s a bullshit easy-way-out excuse to be lazy. No girl really wants some disgusting bum of a guy. And if they do, it"s probably because they are "slumming" and you"re just a temporary waste of time for them. You have to show that you respect yourself, and that you"re willing to give out your social value to others. People will want to be around you because you are, emotionally & mentally, such a 10 that when others are around you you make them feel like a ten too. When you walk in a club, girls will look at you and think "Wow, look at this guy and how he carries himself. He must be someone awesome and I want to get to know him." (Meanwhile she looks over at the chump who just offered to buy her a drink [which means "Hi, I"m pathetic, can I please spend $8 so I can give you an interview?"]).

You just have to be willing to put in the work and spend the time doing it. It"s much, much, much easier to sit on the internet and say "Oh that will never work in *my* case because ...", but that"s bullshit.

The stuff works. I posted a while back about an outing in Illinois on Halloween night. I met a Hooters girl at her job (which is impossible because every guy asks for their numbers and they never give them out), then we continued our outing, I was just being as much of a 10 as I could be. I said hello to everyone in the club, I shook hands with the door guys, treated everyone with as much respect as I could, and talked to every set of girls I saw. I even opened sets of girls while being involved with a different set, and brought them all in together to talk. It got to the point where I would open a set and then dismiss them instead of getting their numbers because I had enough numbers and there was no point in me getting any more. Toward the end of the night I met back up with the Hooters girl and stayed at her house, it was a very successful night, and I attribute it 100% to the stuff I learned in the Pickup Podcast regarding inner game and being a 10. The shit works. I"m only an average looking guy.

I think the Russian dating sites, etc, are for the people who just give up on life and are looking for the easy way out. Yeah, you can do that shit but it"s pretty pathetic to buy a girl. But shit, if you"re busy or don"t want to improve yourself, that"s an option!

I swear I know this sounds preachy but please don"t take it that way. I"ve been into this stuff for a long time and I really like the stuff, and it"s really improved my life. The stuff flows over into my professional life, etc. It"s really great. There is such a wealth of *free* information on the net regarding this kind of stuff, many forums out there, etc, that it"s really such a shame to pass it all up. (but really, get the damn podcast and spend a day listening to it, especially the stuff about inner game.)

I love you.

Eomer said:

So question: is picking up Hooter"s waitresses actually something to be proud of in the US? Because up here, picking up a Hooter"s waitress means you"re going home with a 35-40 year old piece of white trash with big hair, okay tits, and a wide ass. They"re very far down the ladder of places to go to see the hot help.

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Haha! It really depends on where you are. I was in Illinois in a college town, so all the Hooters waitresses were 21-22 with perfect bodies. Maybe a couple of nasty ones but who counts them anyway?

Hooters surprised me most in NYC. I went to the 8th avenue or 57th street, whatever it was, thinking this would be a badass Hooters with really smoking hot girls. Nope, they were all hideous. I wouldn"t have even looked at them twice in a club.