Going to College as an Adult

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I drew the worst group of noobs for a class group project team this semester than I have ever been saddled with. Not only are they terrible, but they are prideful in their terrible-ness. Instead of just letting me redesign and rewrite their middle school quality work for an easy A, they get all defensive and want to keep their trash because they dont "see whats wrong with it". FML

chris lilley fml GIF
I'd ask you if we are in the same group but then that would imply that my work was shit too.

That said, I am in the same exact situation you are, seemingly.
 

moonarchia

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Group projects are universally despised as the modern scholastic form of socialism. The one or two decent people carrying the lazy pieces of shit. Since almost all professors are socialists, they dont see a problem with this. I truly can write this shit faster and better myself doing it entirely alone but I am "not allowed to be in a group of 1". Instead I do double the work rewriting hot garbage for people in grad school.
Get a quack to diagnose you as having extreme social anxiety and threaten to sue the fuck out of the teacher and the department if they try to force you into any group projects.
 
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The biggest project I ever did at university I did 95% alone despite being in a group of 5 people. This was a database design class that was an elective for me as a computer science major but it was the Gatekeeper class for the business schools' MIS undergrad. It had a failure rate of more than 60%. Like Sanrith Descartes Sanrith Descartes says most of them couldn't write for shit so I just stopped asking. Forget about having them make a relational schema or actually building the database and front end interface. So I just had them put all of my work into a presentable format and go get it printed. They didn't complain.

The professor was the biggest asshole I ever had at university. But god damn if you didn't actually learn something. I ended up taking all of the classes he taught. He did that database class and several Java development courses. The only professor from my entire undergrad I am glad to have encountered.

The class was like, get a group of 5 people, get a business use case (full of ambiguity and shitty wording that a customer would think up. Which looking back on was genius) and build out a database system for this customer. Complete with all the documentation an actual product for use would need. Then pitch it to your client at the end of the semester. My group did indeed get an A on it. But I did carry those retards who had to learn the complete basics of "what is a database" along the way.

It did seriously piss me off that the ambiguity in the project did have a definite answer. But since you could interpret it both ways you could easily have done the wrong thing and you still get marked down for it. The dude was one stickler of a grader.
 

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The more I ponder the whole group project thing in college, the more I am convinced it is designed to teach the few hard working people what to look for in peers so you can avoid them like the plague once you get out into the workplace.
It's just laziness on the part of profs who don't want to grade 4-5x the amount of code. Unless the class is "Group Projects" there is 0 ethical reason to be chaining students like that, and every reason to sue the fuck out of the teacher and the school if they refuse to allow you to do it solo.
 

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It's just laziness on the part of profs who don't want to grade 4-5x the amount of code. Unless the class is "Group Projects" there is 0 ethical reason to be chaining students like that, and every reason to sue the fuck out of the teacher and the school if they refuse to allow you to do it solo.
The majority of my computer science professors had written their own programs to grade their assignments.

Their programs were real good at detecting copied work.
 
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So i have to say really enjoying Financial Markets and Institutions. Professor is hardcore against online classes so he chooses to run his class just like a face-to-face class. No bullshit discussion posts or group projects. He records multi-hour video lectures and posts them each week. Two exams and a cumulative final. Thats it. No homework. Exams use lockdown browser so no Quizlet on the other screen. Know the material or fail. This is how grad school is supposed to work. A+, will take this guy again if I can.
2nd computer or tablet or browser on phone. And that's just what I have in the room with me right now. If your exam can be 100% from rote memorization, it is a shitty exam.
 

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Group projects are universally despised as the modern scholastic form of socialism. The one or two decent people carrying the lazy pieces of shit. Since almost all professors are socialists, they dont see a problem with this. I truly can write this shit faster and better myself doing it entirely alone but I am "not allowed to be in a group of 1". Instead I do double the work rewriting hot garbage for people in grad school.
I took a D in my O-Chem 2 class because I refused to participate in a retarded group project that was being spearheaded by an actual 20 year old faggot. Got an A when I retook it with the white male professor who didn't give a shit about coming up with a cute jingle for SN2 reactions.

Moral of the story: don't ever take a serious STEM class with a female professor.
 
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I took a D in my O-Chem 2 class because I refused to participate in a retarded group project that was being spearheaded by an actual 20 year old faggot. Got an A when I retook it with the white male professor who didn't give a shit about coming up with a cute jingle for SN2 reactions.

Moral of the story: don't ever take a serious STEM class with a female professor.
Moral of the story is that O Chem at Ugrad level is pure faggotry and is in no way a STEM class. The entire thing is literally "feels" based. Fuck that class.
 
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Moral of the story is that O Chem at Ugrad level is pure faggotry and is in no way a STEM class. The entire thing is literally "feels" based. Fuck that class.
I mean reactions go the same way every time under the same conditions. There is a high level of visualization that you have to do to map it out but that doesn't make it feels based faggotry. If your brain likes math/physics and the strict equations that go with them(I do) then you're gonna have a hard time. Stereochemistry and nucleophilic substitution are based on strict physics at a molecular level. How the hell is that feels based?
 

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I mean reactions go the same way every time under the same conditions. There is a high level of visualization that you have to do to map it out but that doesn't make it feels based faggotry. If your brain likes math/physics and the strict equations that go with them(I do) then you're gonna have a hard time. Stereochemistry and nucleophilic substitution are based on strict physics at a molecular level. How the hell is that feels based?
Because you arent applying the physics in orgo classes. There is zero math in orgo and you are deciding on where shit goes based on memorizing some rules. I had a very hard time with it.
 

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Because you arent applying the physics in orgo classes. There is zero math in orgo and you are deciding on where shit goes based on memorizing some rules. I had a very hard time with it.
Well by that logic, memorizing your times tables in second grade is also feels based faggotry.
 

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Well by that logic, memorizing your times tables in second grade is also feels based faggotry.
True. If you arent learning why multiplication works and are just memorizing the results, you are a faggot.


But actually, thats a false equivalence you just made there.
 

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True. If you arent learning why multiplication works and are just memorizing the results, you are a faggot.


But actually, thats a false equivalence you just made there.
I really don't care that much.
 
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