GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

They've telegraphed a Euron betrayal plenty hard. He's already been killing mercs on the trip over for laughs. He told his niece that he wasn't killing her because he wants someone around to appreciate his craftiness, when she tells him that he picked the wrong side he basically responds with "I picked my own side" and leaves her with "Well, it's time to go fuck a queen, BRB!".

At this point it will just be bad writing if Euron remains loyal because that pussy is soooooo strong.

Fuck, this is probably the best battle scene I've seen. Cinematography wise, the sense of dread and fear, I never felt like the living had any advantages, even when they lit the ditch us. It was truly survival horror. Arya in the library scene was amazing. The Dothraki charge at the start and watching the flames go out...made me clench my asscheeks. Fuck this was beautiful.

Some definitely gripes though:
Really would have liked more main characters killed off; Jorah...wasn't enough.
Bran...dude bro do something guy.
I thought Sam was supposed to be brave now...but for most of it he was a pussy

i'm pretty sure they gave ayra the kill because the others are already going to have big kills and they need to divy that up.

Too Much Black !

I thought the battle was a little cliched at a lot of points. "Oh, hey look. It's the same shot of Jamie/Brienne/Tormund just fighting a nonstop end of wights one at a time. But this time they've moved from one place, to another!" like 3 times. It was like they were signing fucking autographs. Also, it totally looked like Daenarys used Jorah as a human shield to take a stab during their fight and I was like "Did she... damn." Kinda fucked, kinda respekt.

Zapatta said:

Faggots not GRRM doing the writing talked about it in the aftershow.

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Well dont listen to faggots then!

Brando said:

Welp, basically confirmed now without GRRM doing the writing this has turned into a total shit show. Yeah the battle and cinematography was great. But 8 years of buildup and it's just over like that? What was Bran even doing the whole time? How is every important character fighting surrounded by a pile of dead bodies and amazingly still alive? What a fucking joke.

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I think more characters should have died (probably to the White Walkers after they entered the keep). But I don't know why it's that surprising the some of the greatest warriors in Westeros live because a bunch of random nobodies around them die.

I do agree that, as of now, Bran's storyline is pretty dumb. So he went through all that just to be bait for the Night King? Hopefully this gets addressed in the remaining episodes.

Teekey said:

I think more characters should have died (probably to the White Walkers after they entered the keep). But I don't know why it's that surprising the some of the greatest warriors in Westeros live because a bunch of random nobodies around them die.

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also, sam.

Xevy said:

Also, it totally looked like Daenarys used Jorah as a human shield to take a stab during their fight

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Nah he was repeatedly throwing himself in the way to protect her. Was really one of the best deaths in the entire series, given how often people end up going out like bitches.

Yeah, I loved how Jorah just refused to die until dany was safe. Like, he had no doubt that he was a goner, but dany's getting out of this one alive and unharmed

I guess it's a little autistic but the tactics of the opening 15 minutes were "wait, what?".

Cavalry up front, then war engines... then, your infantry? Infantry up front, war engines behind them, cavalry on the flanks. You harry the rear or the flanks of the enemy with your cavalry. Their advantage is mobility. It doesn't make any sense to charge straight into a solid mass, you lose your advantage. You've got Jaime there who has been been shown commanding battles and you assume is versed in large formations of troops. You've got tyrion there. You've got Jorah there. Even Jon should have realized that was a silly initial formation. You've got a lot of people there that should have gone "wait a second, sure we're all going to die, but this is kind of a stupid way to do it".

And why are you shooting flaming catapult bombs AS your calvary is charging? If the enemy is just going to stand there... why not just lob bombs at them until they realize they need to move? Are you just HOPING to kill your own dudes?

That was the primary problem for me. Hardhome and the Castle Black versions of this actually had a sensible set of starting conditions.

The visual of the dothraki swords going out was neat enough, but it's not worth sabotaging the competence of your story just for that. They could have done a variant of that scene in the middle instead of in the beginning and it may have been even more impactful.

I know it's fantasy and all. But c'mon now. No one ever arrayed armies like that. Not even the british, who were famous for the simple solution of throwing more bodies at the problem.

Also, I think ghost is still alive because no one told him what was happening. He just ran out with the horses because they were taking him for a walk. Then they run into the undead and he's like OH WTF and ran back home

In the crypts was that wights breaking through the door, or Stark wights breaking out their graves?

Ossoi said:

In the crypts was that wights breaking through the door, or Stark wights breaking out their graves?

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yes.

Stark wights.