Mancegate is not a thing. Dude is dead.That's my guess. I'm telling myself I won't watch them because I don't want to wait a month for episode 5 but I doubt I end up holding out. I just assumed that Mance was switched out until he started talking. Seems odd he'd give some Mance style talk if it was just some illusion. Did Rattleshirt say anything in the books before he got toasted?
My thoughts exactly. After Robert's rebellion all he did was fight tournaments. In open field, with full armor. Yes he was undoubtedly phenomenal in his prime, but in leather in really tight quarters where he couldn't do a full swing even if he tried, his odds were heavily against him. Unsullied being mowed down like that was mainly because 7 foot long spears in a 5 foot wide hallway. Barristan is in his 70's, and yes 4 seasons ago he made the badass comment about carving the gold cloaks like a cake. But who was he up against? The Goldcloaks in Roberts employ, besides Selmy and Lannister were mediocre at BEST. Selmy had a lot of legend which made him larger than life....in his prime and well after. In the years he followed Daenerys he barely lifted a sword. I am pretty sure Daario could fuck him up pretty bad. To add to that, Selmy mowed down like 12 of them slashing the fuckers in HALF before he got stabbed. Those odds are still fucking impressive, when you count that Bronn and Jaime had trouble against 4 guys.
His nostalgic tale about Rhaegar, and Littlefinger mentioning Selmy about the tournament with Rhaegar made it feel like a /salute and goodbye to Selmy. I hope he lives, but i doubt it.
lol, yes. HBO Benioff and Weiss have shown time and time again that they are willing to say, "Gurrm? WTF is this shit? Nope, not gona do that."Or more likely there was no switch cus it was a shit plot device in the books as well and the purpose for it isn't needed in the show.
Except Mance gets sent to Winterfell. So in the book world he is kind of important for the events that follow. Not saying this can't be written around, or that it was vitally important, but that's why it's a shock to any book reader.in regards to mance , i thought the rattleshirt switch was kinda stupid too, this was a better way to go especially since we never saw any importance for sparing mance's life in the first place. the actor they picked was great and i enjoyed his scenes, thats the only reason i can think of for being bummed by his death.
but they can fill that role with pretty much any tricksy person, it was not unique to mance. mance was unique for his leadership of the wildling clans.Except Mance gets sent to Winterfell. So in the book world he is kind of important for the events that follow. Not saying this can't be written around, or that it was vitally important, but that's why it's a shock to any book reader.
It won't. You should just watch something else.Watched the first episode of this season. Wow, was that boring. Hopefully it gets better soon.