False alarm.
That's a pretty legit theory, in the books they make it pretty damn clear that Mel's abandoned all hope with Stannis and is going strongly to Jon camp, which is why no one thought for a second his death would stick. But that gives a good dynamic to their "relationship" if she really did sacrifice Shireen for him.
i dont want to watch that scene again, but when mel was offering shireen up to the red god, did she mention stannis by name? i was starting to suspect that mel was doing more than making the weather improve, but i wasnt sure on their timelines if its synced up with where they are at the wall.
That would make sense if she brought on the thaw so that Jon can get to Winterfell and finish kicking in the Boltons' teeth after she brings him back. She wouldn't need to clear the path for her to return to Castle Black herself. Davos obviously went back before that. It's just a question of how long the thaw will last.
this makes a lot of sense, especially considering the opening of episode 9 with Mel wandering about before the fires go off.
It doesn't make sense because it's basically impossible in the books, even if Lyanna and Robert had been getting nasty before their marriage, she was with Rhaegar for too long for the baby (if she had one) to be Robert's. Unless the baby was like, actually a couple months old when they rescued Lyanna from the Tower of Joy and not a newborn. Which would mean that Lyanna died in some way other than childbed, which is what the Rhaegar/Lyanna baby theory is assuming.
The last bit you added about the Tower of Joy is not in the show. All that's really known in the show is
from the GoT wiki, and even that is from a source that is no longer available. Some HBO guide.
The fact that he wouldn't discuss it with Catelyn is some of the most compelling evidence there is that it wasn't his son.
No, I'm not saying that. I don't think he would either. I'm saying he would have if Jon was Rhaegar's.
