GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

Fawe_sl said:

I want to have fun making autistic theories too!!!!!!!!

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You know it's bad when an actual autistic person has to duck out of the thread.

Woolygimp was a sure sign of the endtimes.

Also I'm pretty sure The Night King is Syrio Forel and he's only coming to Westeros to teach Arya one last lesson.

I thought the Queen of Thorns really shitted on Cersei in their last exchange when she basically humuliated her with the cold truth mentioned she was fucked now and asked what is she going to do kill ALL her enemies?

Yes, yes I will she thought. Then did. As much as i dont really like Cersei that coupe de grace at the end was just an astonishing play on her part. We knew the wildfire was going to be a factor, but not like that. The last 2 episodes of season 6 were the best 2 hours of television I ever watched.

Funny thing is that when I posted my fake spoiler, instead of saying 'Cersei and Tommen both live' I was thinking about saying something like 'Cersei blows up Margaery and the High Sparrow and accidentally kills Tommen too', and now I'm really glad I didn't post that cause I'd probably be in RRP for at least a month.

Twilight Sparkle_sl said:

Funny thing is that when I posted my fake spoiler, instead of saying 'Cersei and Tommen both live' I was thinking about saying something like 'Cersei blows up Margaery and the High Sparrow and accidentally kills Tommen too', and now I'm really glad I didn't post that cause I'd probably be in RRP for at least a month.

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The most common theory was that Tommen would cross the line with Cersei, and Ser Robert Strong would inadvertently kill him, due to him protecting Cersei at all costs.

It kind of played out this way. Tommen crossed the line with his mother, and instead of Cersei meeting with her son she sends Robert, who then leaves Tommen immediately afterwards. This is when Tommen thinks he's a bird and tries to fly out of the window.

In the books, the Mountain's head was sent to Dorne. While Robert Strong is almost definitely the Mountain's body, it's unclear who's head, or what, lies underneath the helmet. So Gregor Clegane is technically dead, that's why Cleganebowl is less likely from the book's PoV.

People have been accurately predicting most events for quite a while. There was no doubt that Cersei would use the Wildfire.

Woolygimp_sl said:

The most common theory was that Tommen would cross the line with Cersei, and Ser Robert Strong would inadvertently kill him, due to him protecting Cersei at all costs.

It kind of played out this way. Tommen crossed the line with his mother, and instead of Cersei meeting with her son she sends Robert, who then leaves Tommen immediately afterwards. This is when Tommen thinks he's a bird and tries to fly out of the window.

In the books, the Mountain's head was sent to Dorne. While Robert Strong is almost definitely the Mountain's body, it's unclear who's head, or what, lies underneath the helmet. So Gregor Clegane is technically dead, that's why Cleganebowl is less likely from the book's PoV.

People have been accurately predicting most events for quite a while. There was no doubt that Cersei would use the Wildfire.

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Cleganebowl is more likely in the books, regardless of what's under the helmet. Do you just pick and choose which prophecies are relevant?

Twilight Sparkle_sl said:

Funny thing is that when I posted my fake spoiler, instead of saying 'Cersei and Tommen both live' I was thinking about saying something like 'Cersei blows up Margaery and the High Sparrow and accidentally kills Tommen too', and now I'm really glad I didn't post that cause I'd probably be in RRP for at least a month.

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1. Stop whining about getting suspended for a day.
2. You would have deserved it.

Friend of mine is convinced a semi major/major character will be revealed at some point to have been a Faceless Man all along playing a role.

Merrith_sl said:

Friend of mine is convinced a semi major/major character will be revealed at some point to have been a Faceless Man all along playing a role.

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Everyone is a faceless man, except Varys.

This is all from Winds of Winter. Fans were allowed to choose which preview chapter was read and in response GRRM said ?The Greyjoys have it, you sick motherfuckers.? Also warned that any children had to be taken out of the room and that it would appeal to Ramsay fans. It's clear that Winds of Winter will cover both S6 & S7, so this preview chapter is all S7 spoiler material unless D&D deviate heavily from the books.

TWOW Chapter Summary - Google Docs

The most relevant points that are indisputable.

1. Euron is sailing south--for conquest, plunder, anddragons.

2. The Dragonlords controlled their dragons through other means than loyalty, which is basically the only think Daenaerys has going for her.

"Valyrian Dragons were controlled by whips, magic horns and sorcery"

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3. Euron has been to the Doom of Valyria. He has a far greater knowledge of dragons, blood magic, and the lost arts of Valyrian society than Daenerys, or anyone else in the world.

Euron did not lie. He has been to Valyria. No wonder he was mad.

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4. Euron has both a dragonhorn (Dragonbinder) and sorcery (explained later), potentially easily giving him complete control over Daenaerys' dragons.

Moqorro says whoever blows the horn will die but any dragons that hear will obey the horn's master.

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5. Euron reveals himself to have a suit of Valyrian Steel armor. Only the most powerful of the 40 Dragonlords had access to them, and not even the Targaryens, who were Dragonlords, are known to have had owned something of this power. What is does is unknown, but it's probably pretty powerful.

Euron Crow?s Eye stood upon the deck of Silence, clad in a suit of black scale armor like nothing Aeron had ever seen before. Dark as smoke it was, but Euron wore it as easily as if it was the thinnest silk. The scales were edged in red gold, and gleamed and shimmered when they moved. Patterns could be seen within the metal, whorls and glyphs and arcane symbols folded into the steel.

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7. He likely has access to the lost Valyrian blood magic. Magic which allowed the Valyrians to control dragons, and rule an Empire, and rivals that of the CotF. This is significant, if true.

?Words are wind but blood is power?

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8. He's sadistic as fuck, with unclear motivations, possibly trying to destroy the Old Gods, the New, and the Lord of Light, and replace them (explained by following foreshadowing). He cut out the tongue's of his crew, killed all of his brothers, and with GRRM's comment makes Ramsay look like a kitten.

The men joke about Aeron apparently knowing what it is like to be taken from the rear (confirming the molestation from Euron)

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9. He's clearly has supernatural motivations. Euron has been imprisoning priests of of all religions and binding them to the bows of his ships.

He is joined by priests of other religions
Priest of the greenlands.
Priest of R?hllor-Man with burned face and arms
Warlocks, one without legs (?!) and and he keeps shouting ?Pree? as he hangs. He assumes ?pree? is the name of the demon that he worshiped.
Septons make soft noises but their tongues are likely cut out.

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Aeron questions in his mind why Euron is collecting priests.

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10. Further foreshadowing of him on the Iron Throne. Very similar to the visions from other characters, including Daenaerys herself.

Euron on a throne of skulls and dwarfs are running around. (Seems vaguely similar to the dwarfs (Tyrion?) Dany see is in House of Undying.)

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Saw longships burning
Euron on Iron throne, changed into a kraken-like figure with tentacles
Accompanied by a long, tall terrible woman, shadowed, with hands of white fire, standing next to him
Male and female dwarfs are running around naked and copulating and fighting
Euron and the woman laugh.

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11. He may be trying to kill the God's. The Old Gods, the New, the Drowned God, and the Lord of Light.

Blows a horn and sphinxes and other creatures bow to him
?Euron says, ?Look and see what I am seated on.??
Skull throne replaced by Iron Throne with all the different gods impaled on it
The seven hung around him, the goat, the pale child Bakkalon (thanks /u/tjtjjtjt), the butterfly god, the red god. And the drowned god, with crabs, and sea water dripping from his hair.

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12. The God's mayactuallyfear him.

Heard Drowned God say Euron cannot be king--king should be?[long pause] he doesn?t say

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Yeah. This guy is totally just a side character and is going to be a non factory in S7. Fucking retards, I can only be wrong if D&D stray heavily from the books.

As far as GRRM subtly trying to subvert religion in his text. He compares religion to Santa, FFS.

When asked which religion he enjoyed writing much,he gave a long answer about relgion in general.Religion is a very strong force. Thought it was strange that Tolkien totally omitted religion. I always had a rationality to me. When i was six i figured out that santa wasn't real but i didn't tell anyone because I was afraid i would stop getting presents. Religion would be much different if magic didn't exist. People asked why the brotherhood without banners converted to r'hollor. They just saw someone raised from the dead. If i saw someone raised from the dead, I would convert too. But now I'm like tyrion, and follow the god of tits and wine.

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Mist_sl said:

It makes sense that there's no religion in Tolkien's world.

When magic is real, why would people need to make up fake magic to believe in?

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Exactly. There's also something to be said that we've seen no good come from religion in George's books, yet. Lot's of sacrifices to the Lord of Light, evil things done in the name of the Drowned God, a bunch of men killed and White Walkers made by believers of the Old Gods, and the High Septon going on his holy crusade which ends in a lot of death. Vaerys' dick was chopped off and thrown into the fire, and the God of Light responded! Jon Snow was resurrected, sure, but this remains to be seen whether this is actually a good thing. Shireen was cured by priests, but that's only speculation.

So far religion has meant death, torture, and evil. There may be something to Euron's crusade to destroy the Gods. Jon Snow may be the Azor Azai's champion, not just to stop the White Walkers but Euron from destroying the God's themselves. This is totally up to George on how he plans to conclude the books.

Lenas_sl said:

1. Stop whining about getting suspended for a day.
2. You would have deserved it.

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1) I wasn't whining, I just thought it was funny that I came close to an accurate 'spoiler' just making shit up.

2) Stop being such a faggot.

Twilight Sparkle_sl said:

1) I wasn't whining, I just thought it was funny that I came close to an accurate 'spoiler' just making shit up.

2) Stop being such a faggot.

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All you do is troll people by calling them autistic. Quoting shit from Winds of Winter, and the fucking author of the series, as evidence of where s7 most likely heads and then making a conclusion is not autism. You don't contribute anything but shit that lands on other posts.

It'd be interesting if the series does conclude with the death of the God's along with the White Walkers. We know they're real and that they have a very distinct impact in this fictional world, but holy fuck if you don't think they're as twisted as Ramsay Bolton. The only reason people believe they're a positive is because the Lord of Light will supposedly send a "Prince that Was Promised" to save (something). So far the Lord of Light has been a giant asshole.

My post regarding Euron and the preview chapter is probably the best summary of S7 that you're going to get. If you don't believe someone who has seen more of the world than anyone alive, has a dragonhorn, knowledge of sorcery and magic, Valyrian Steel armor, a thousand ships, and is on a HUGE fucking crusade is going to be a major character then...

Or maybe there are no gods and magic is just a random force that sometimes works. The books would honestly get real retarded if Euron's conquests over the gods are literal and not some abstract thing in Aeron's drug trips.

A battle is brewing here between an Autist and a Troll.

This shall be epic.

bixxby_sl said:

Or maybe there are no gods and magic is just a random force that sometimes works. The books would honestly get real retarded if Euron's conquests over the gods are literal and not some abstract thing in Aeron's drug trips.

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Are you saying that Euron is Zebuxoruk?

I was not even close to the first person to bring up autism here captain wall of text.