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I'm a fan of Dany the character, but I don't like some of the dumb shit they've made her do in the name of plot.
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I'm a fan of Dany the character, but I don't like some of the dumb shit they've made her do in the name of plot.
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Dany has been pretty consisitently one of my favorite characters in the show. But they went way over the top with the pomp and circumstance of her homecoming.
The entire show is about how there is no actual respect for tradition, titles, or what happened yesterday. It's not even a central conflict. It's a premise. All of that stuff is only a pretense of power.
And then Dany, who has been the one trying to rectify that exact incongruity... welp, this sand sure is nice and wet. Time to adopt all the pretenses!
They're building Dany up so they can humble her and then salvage her in an emotional climax. I find it heavyhanded, even for a Dany arc.
I rolled my eyes pretty hard when the dragon strafed them on the bridge. I REALLY wanted Jon to say, "Was that entirely necessary, little buddy? I can see them. I know they're dragons. Just how stupid do you think I am?" The collection of scenes was her trying to overawe him with her power. And -that- is against her type.
Is it believable? Sure, I guess so. It's a story with dragons and zombies. Did I find it a particularly clever bit of writing? No. It's not clever at all. It's not really even consistent character writing. She got to her ancestral home, realized that it's kinda damp and shitty, and she's PMSing or something.
The entire show is about how there is no actual respect for tradition, titles, or what happened yesterday. It's not even a central conflict. It's a premise. All of that stuff is only a pretense of power.
And then Dany, who has been the one trying to rectify that exact incongruity... welp, this sand sure is nice and wet. Time to adopt all the pretenses!
They're building Dany up so they can humble her and then salvage her in an emotional climax. I find it heavyhanded, even for a Dany arc.
I rolled my eyes pretty hard when the dragon strafed them on the bridge. I REALLY wanted Jon to say, "Was that entirely necessary, little buddy? I can see them. I know they're dragons. Just how stupid do you think I am?" The collection of scenes was her trying to overawe him with her power. And -that- is against her type.
Is it believable? Sure, I guess so. It's a story with dragons and zombies. Did I find it a particularly clever bit of writing? No. It's not clever at all. It's not really even consistent character writing. She got to her ancestral home, realized that it's kinda damp and shitty, and she's PMSing or something.
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What if GRRM's sole motivation in having the Jaime-Cersei relationship was to pave the way for a more well received Jon-Dany union? Not saying it is, just felt like throwing that out there....
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I disagree about good idea. You don't split an overpowering force up and then focus on using your weakest link(navy) exclusively while your strengths just sit and hold their dicks. You don't bring foreign invaders all the way over and then decide that using foreign invaders is stupid. A landed Dothraki force would have scared the shit out of the locals and caused massive issues for the leadership. Support classes like farmers, etc would have run away or crammed into starving KL. Some leadership would want to fight them while others would want to wait. Leadership would be divided while everyone in KL would start demanding why Cersei isn't doing more to protect them. No one would send their army out to save Cersei at KL.
Have the Dothraki prevent supplies from land and the dragons burn anything that sails in. Starve the fuckers out while increasing pressure to do something, anything. Dany has already laid sieges on the other continent but they just sit at Dragonstone now? I hope GRRM has a less retarded plan for the books.
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Tyrion's advice was sound, there was just no way he could anticipate Euron's stupid fucking teleporting stealth fleet.
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You guys talking about how she shouldn't split her forces have spent too much time playing Civ 4 or something.
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You guys talking about how she shouldn't split her forces have spent too much time playing Civ 4 or something.
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At this point, if they explained that Euron is actually using Eldar Webway portals to move his fleet around Westeros, I'd be fine with it because at least then his movements would make some kind of sense. I mean suckering Tyrion by marching the Lannister army out of Casterly Rock to take Highgarden is already a significant win without the bullshit of having Euron somehow manage to sink the Yara's fleet, sail to King's Landing to hand over Ellaria and Tyene, then somehow manage to arrive at Casterly Rock right behind the unsullied.
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I didn't like how Euron wasn't at all in the first 3 books, then comes out of nowhere in the 4th book and seems to have a pivotal part. It felt to me a bit like GRRM padding, he wanted to add a Dorne plot and it felt a bit forced to me.
Man is it way worse in the show atm. Euron's teleporting stealth fleet of 1000 ships built in a few weeks is beyond absurd, even under the constraints of only having 10 episodes left. I don't need a travelogue, but come on. I hope that when they talked about all the special effects and large battles they were going to have this season, the silly Silence battle and the casterly rock fight weren't what they were talking about. Big letdowns both.
Man is it way worse in the show atm. Euron's teleporting stealth fleet of 1000 ships built in a few weeks is beyond absurd, even under the constraints of only having 10 episodes left. I don't need a travelogue, but come on. I hope that when they talked about all the special effects and large battles they were going to have this season, the silly Silence battle and the casterly rock fight weren't what they were talking about. Big letdowns both.
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I don't recall actually seeing Euron in the fight against the Unsullied. Fleet easily could have just dropped him off and the prisoners while it sailed around to Casterly Rock.
People's autism is showing freaking out over "time travel" stuff. Sam's story is pretty much completely contained in Oldtown this season. When he first talked to Sam they hadn't even had word about Dany reaching Dragonstone yet, so it all could be taking place before or right when they landed.
10 episodes to wrap it up and people want to see weeks of "We were on the sea traveling..."
People's autism is showing freaking out over "time travel" stuff. Sam's story is pretty much completely contained in Oldtown this season. When he first talked to Sam they hadn't even had word about Dany reaching Dragonstone yet, so it all could be taking place before or right when they landed.
10 episodes to wrap it up and people want to see weeks of "We were on the sea traveling..."
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No it wasn't. Why would you expect the bulk of Lannister power to sit at home in Casterly if the main goal is protecting the crown at KL? Why would you expect the Dornish or Tyrells to accomplish what no one else has? His advice after spending all that time sailing and before was to bring a giant invading army...and then let them sit there? Sure, she seemed to have plenty of resources and the super navy is retarded but a good leader doesn't sit their greatest warriors while depending on new allies they don't even know.
"What? Sit my warriors while depending on a lady who was Cersei's ally a few months ago and a woman who's greatest claim to leadership is she fucked a great warrior for years? Hell, yeah, sit back boys, this will be easy."
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So they could have battled one of Dany's split forces, defeated them, made it back to KL, dropped off Euron and made it Casterly Rock RIGHT BEHIND another one of Dany's split forces? If they were so close to each other why did they split up?
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I loved that bit.
I also laughed at his intro to Jon after that long-winded Daeny intro.
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This is probably the high point of Euron's fleet though. We knew they were going to delay Dany's overwhelming power at least for a bit, we just didn't expect the whole Euron deus ex machina.
What is his fleet going to do now? They have the Unsullied surrounded but we know they will all starve to death rather than surrender. Blockading Dragonstone doesn't sound like a too viable option either. So I expect the invisible teleporting fleet will hopefully get burned to the ground.
What is his fleet going to do now? They have the Unsullied surrounded but we know they will all starve to death rather than surrender. Blockading Dragonstone doesn't sound like a too viable option either. So I expect the invisible teleporting fleet will hopefully get burned to the ground.