Grim Dawn

Not a fan of the level cap (currently 40). There's really no reason for them to have it, content is already limited by what's available.

Problem is, twice we've hit level cap before finishing what I think is Act 2. Dunno about single player, but playing MP duo with someone, the content goes by super quick. You can easily reach the current cap if you use the same character on multiple games. For example, played to about 30ish in one game, helped a buddy in a different game hit cap.

With the current cap, it's kind of difficult to do a hybrid build, much less test it out. I believe I had about 15 hours played when my first character hit 35, and about 10-12 hours when my second character hit 40. Not only that, but you'll be getting good drops from the keyed dungeons that are level 50+ and can't do anything with.

Lot of the skills feel underwhelming and the game begins to feel a bit whack-a-mole in the 20's. The UI is a bit clunky and there's a bit of a skill/casting delay. Being used to Marvel Heroes, some abilities (like the soldier's Blitz) being on a timer are just shit. Wouldn't be so bad if soldier had some aoe taunts or something. Soon as my buddy casts one of his aoe's all mobs swarm to him.

There's also a serious LoS issue that affects skills, spells, and abilities. Some skill shot abilities will have the thing fire off, but not do the AoE effect at the end. Simple things like plants, barrels, crates, can sometimes fudge spells. Got so annoying one of my buddies switched from arcanist to nightblade.

My recommendation? If you're just going to play single player, it's good to go right now. If you're planning on playing this with a friend, wait until a lot more of the content is complete or for release. This game does not feel as smooth as D3 by any stretch.

yeah. hit 33 on a single playthrough.


Content. yeah. currently part of act 3 is in. Its not as clear as in PoE or Diablo. Warden is act 1, cronley is act 2 I suppose?
in comparison to PoE. This might be about back when PoE was in Act 2, and we had to farm graveyard, before maps, in terms of content.




pure arcanist. I don't feel there is alot of class synergy in other classes that buff arcanist. meaning, the +elemental to attacks aura in arcanist, obviously is useful for OTHER classes main attacks. but not much in other classes does the same for arcanist.
solider/battlemage has a few defensive passives.

yes, skill cap, and passive system means you basically pick one skill, maybe 2 depending on the skill, and a couple secondary defensive skills.
Respecs are fairly cheap imho. skills on gear is nice.
Skill balance. eh.
See this is a bit of a problem. like arcanist.
Arcanist Build for Grim Dawn - Grim Calc
Who in their right mind would spend 12 points on flash freeze?(+5 on passives) its a one point wonder. and yes +points does increase its size and duration nicely. But it doesnt work on bosses, and deals little damage. (nevermind another 12 points for more cold%, frostburn and a slow, +15 more passive points). Its a situational use secondary CC skill. A point in a secondary skill like that is never worth a point in a main skill.

Skyshards, and disintergrate totally outshine repeating missiles.
Disintegrate is lame as its the SAME spell we saw in torchlight and d3. no idea who thought this was a good idea.
Its also stupid strong. so much, that it completely trivializes the missiles.
16 points in sky shards and 1 point in aetherray is more single target dps, and more aoe then 36points+ in missiles.

Skyshards has los issues.. honestly I think it keeps it a bit balanced. im ok with it hitting trees, etc.


and yeah, as a single player one run through. enjoyable enough. the game feels largely designed not as a roguelike arpg, but more of a, I dont know. zelda? been awhile since playing a game like this I guess. secrets to be found, etc. less about replay and more about the single journey.
Very different from PoE, which as I've noted, EVERYTHING about it is built on replay, and making alts. (well until masters were added anyway) Not so here.

Just bought this as it is 50% off Steam. Pretty fun.

Got this game for 13$ last night and I couldn't stop playing. Ended up going to bed at 2am. Very fun game and definitely worth the price.

So is the game working with co-op now and how long does it take to get through act 3 roughly? I bought this awhile ago and might get a friend to try it out with me if co-op is working.

Picked this up a few days ago and having a blast. Only scratching the surface, but there seems to be a lot of depth to the crafting/build possibilities. Currently playing a saboteur; and teleporting into a pack, dropping a cocussive bomb, getting AoE procs, and watching packs get stunned and then melting in a cascade of fire and lightning is just glorious. Game looks awesome on a powerful rig with everything maxed.

Think I'm hooked.

SO I was checking out their website this game is still considered "under development" anyone playing it?

Old video I dug up

Hateyou_sl said:

I've played it a ton but am holding off on coming back until the full game is out although it's already pretty fleshed out. Mostly just haven't played due to it being summer and have a baby now

The faction system they just implemented is pretty sweet. If you haven't played in a while, they've added a lot of stuff lately.

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The same. It will undoubtedly be worth money in the end (and is now too), but you might as well hold off until they get closer to release. I think the next act is due this summer.

Small team, so development is slow, but not a bad game.

Haven't played in a while. Its a ok diversion. Its not a bad game.. But I find it wholly inferior to PoE.

Had a lot of fun with it about 3 months ago, but the pace of updates/news is slow enough (not a complaint) that I decided to just ignore it until formal release.

so not worth the money till more content comes out?

^^ That's really good news. Glad to hear it's (finally!!) expected to land before the year is out, with a new class. Still going to wait for full release before firing it up again though.

Really like the cross-classing in this game, so the final level cap increase is what I'm hanging out for.

Last class is out: Shaman. 2h using pet class, so you can zookie it up with occultist if you like, or just melee it up. Seems at lot more fun than arcanist at least.