Thats not just guns though. I mean anyone who cant be trusted with a gun probably couldnt be trusted with a car.
that's bordering on megalomaniacal to even say you even could take all the guns away. The Problem is violence crime and murder. And as such you wouldn't even treating the disease by taking all the guns away, just the symptoms.
that statement probably isn't true.
Which is great in theory, but when you show no sign of making progress towards fixing the problem, it's generally a good idea to halt the symptoms in the meanwhile.
This is basically my thoughts on it. We're sociopaths, we as a society as so wealthy, so far up our own asses with our own importance, so arrogant, so self absorbed, that its inevitable that some people will come to see their failures as caused by others, which then leads them to blame, irrationally, society for their failures as people. I think in particular this affects "white males" because of their position of power in our society for so long, hence why the vast majority of spree killers are "white men". Basically, the mindset is "If I've failed, it can't be my fault, I'm a perfect snowflake mommy and daddy told me so, so someone else must be to blame, and I'm so important that if someone else caused me to fail, then I have the right to harm them, and others, to show the world some justice for the wrongs it has caused to me."
it's worse than that, the drugs psychiatrist put people on defiantly has side effects on the mind.And as with the problem of treating the symptom not the disease, pills do not force people to face the underlying cognitive dissonance in their minds that can cause people to develop neurosis, mental suppression by way of drugs really is terrible in that aspect. Long term repression will usually lead to a violent outbreak at some point.
It absolutely is our society that is the problem. Most of the mass shootings are done by well off, educated kids from the 'burbs that had thier parents tell them they were perfect angels and special snowflakes all of thier lives. Then they get to high school and realize that they arent. ANNNNNNNNGST!!!! I dont think we need to go back to the 50's mentality of child raising, but i dont think any of us on this board can say most 12-18 year old kids today are pillars of humanity.
Torture just doesn't work. The Romans were wholesale torturing christians and anyone else they thought needed it. Crucifixion was invented to be one horrible means of torture. The middle and dark ages all had some incredibly awful methods and machines of torture like draw and quarter, the iron maiden, the rack, braveheart cut your gut open and rip your guts out or just good old fashioned beheadings...
Yeah, ignore the fact that I proved how much of a fucking moron you are.
Torturous deaths are nothing like torturing people for information because there is no incentive, at that point the die has been cast and the person knows it. You need to think about things like "to the pain" and leaving somebody's ears on.
option 3, stop having a megalomaniacal delusion that gun control laws will lead to a better society, you have to look at the losses besides the black and white the loss of life, When Politicians appeal to Peoples emotions based on peoples fear of death you are being exploited politically for maximum gain.
How is that a megalomaniacal delusion? Do you even know what megalomania is? You are apocalyptically stupid.
I keep hearing arguments like this and it makes me sad. I have read your posts, you are not an idiot and i think you understand how our media/society works. We will ignore the real problem because its hard, and no one wants to stand up in front of a camera and blame PEOPLE. We have created a society basically white knights everything. So, we are going to go for a band aid fix that essentially does nothing and everyone will feel great and noble. Then in 2 weeks the media is on to the next big thing and the original problem is completely forgotten about. Fast forward 2-10 years and the same horrible event happens again and we start back and square one.
