Hearthstone

Is there a game that doesn't have these problems and doesn't have other problems? For example, MTG:A seems better designed but it has economy problems. There's also mana screw/flood issues that they are *maybe* triaging with BO3 matchups but I'll admit I haven't been following it as closely lately.

Just seems astounding that no one has stepped into fill this void. Gwent might have, a year ago, but it seems they've missed their opportunity.

Deathwing said:

Is there a game that doesn't have these problems and doesn't have other problems? For example, MTG:A seems better designed but it has economy problems. There's also mana screw/flood issues that they are *maybe* triaging with BO3 matchups but I'll admit I haven't been following it as closely lately.

Just seems astounding that no one has stepped into fill this void. Gwent might have, a year ago, but it seems they've missed their opportunity.

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Yes I imagine these problems are prevalent in most games, especially card games that have inherent RNG.
Which is why I keep saying it can be fixed with different modes. Once you can ban out decks the game actually becomes strategic. Same could be said by including a sideboard.
When I was doing the online Tournaments for HCT points it was vastly superior to just ranked ladder.

Sure, it's still an RNG game, and the esport scene comes across as laughable due to the amount of RNG the game has. But the most strategic parts of the game are largely ignored: Deck selection/bans is where you win/lose in most cases. But by the time the tournament stream loads you're already past the strategic elements and now it's just watching games play out.

Honestly a Sealed Deck mode would be even more superior as it can show off the great deck builders. Give them 100 cards to make a deck with (both opponents have the same 100 cards), have 3-5mins (or whatever feels good) to build your deck, then go.

But whatever... keep printing cards and ignore the vast possibilities. It's only a 4.5 year old game at this point and we still have the same game modes. Excellent.

StoiCynic said:

I know you guys are all on some next level griping, but I finally started messing around with this over the weekend. After building a nice little beginner druid starter deck I went on a tear, went 9-2 having a blast. I'm assuming I hit a mmr bracket because the last 8 matches I have been getting stomped on with stacked decks full of legendaries. Needless to say, the honeymoon has ended real quick. I don't mind throwing a few bucks around on a ftp game I was having fun with, but how much are we talking here before I go down the rabbit hole? I know I am significantly behind the curve, if I need to drop 3 digits i'll likely just wait on Artifact for my tcg fix.

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Are you brand new to hearthstone?
If you focus on making 1 deck it's not too bad, but to get most of the' must have' cards you're looking at minimum 100 per expansion... 3 expansions + classic in standard rotation means at least $400 to get a decent head start.... but you can go the ftp route and just build 1 deck and save up gold for packs and after a couple rotations (rotations are once a year), you'll have everything you need for very little investment (basically $50 per expansion for the pre-order, plus all the gold you save, 3 expansions per year = $150 per year to be good)

Toast is the redeeming quality of hearthstone.

I'm at 3-0 last night running Cubelock.

I think Im 4-1 after yesterday with mill druid.

But it seems like every player has been so bad.... first win was against a "face hunter" that was using classic cards, so probably a rank 25 player just doing their run cause its free. Only loss has been to a very aggressive Evenlock... Final turn was Shadowflame on Genn to get past my 5x 1/5 taunts. Ouchie. Didn't even know Shadowflame was used lately lol.