Hearthstone

After having played a good amount of Hunter lately, I agree with whoever said that, slippery. Undertaker is too good when it's good. I played against a Mana Wyrm last week and noticed then that my Undertaker was outpacing his Wyrm like gangbusters. And of course, I went on to win that one.

Health is just incredibly important in HS. A 4/5 is substantially better than a 5/4. Blizzard knows this, it is why they make all the five drops with a bonus (like Greenskin) 5/4 instead of 4/5. Greenskin as a 4/5 would see so much more play.

But a one drop that gets +1 health every time a common event happens? Totally fine!

Three damage is the easiest damage threshold (Frostbolt, Lightning Bolt, Rockbiter, Fiery War Axe, any 3/2 1 or 2 drop, any 2/3 1 or 2 drop Druid or Mage her powers, etc.) Would be very reasonable.

slippery_sl said:

That's the problem though, because when it really works you just win the game. I was streaming the other day and someone had a suggestion for how it should change, make it a 1/3 that gains 1 attack when you summon a deathrattle. That way it doesn't get stupid amounts of health, it basically turns into a Mana Wurm but Deathrattles instead of Spells.

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Yeah it's just ridiculous. I had a 8/9 Undertaker on turn 4 the other day in a draft, of all things. Obvs that was with Kings, but still. It's just too insane, don't know what they were thinking... except for trying to push the "theme" of Naxxramas.

Reincarnate + Deathlord is entertaining, especially when the new minion triggers the deathrattle again.

To those complaining about undertaker, I just beat a hunter who from a turn 1 undertaker got an 7/8 undertaker and I won, your argument is invalid, its the only thing that makes aggro even viable.

You'd think everyone and their mother would be running silences at this point, they completely gut eggs and undertakers.

Finally, we've come around to the Mass Dispel meta!

slippery_sl said:

You're right, a 1 mana 7/8 isn't overpowered at all.

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Actually after I thought about it again, it was a 8/9. I killed it with a doa'ed injured blademaster + auchenai/coh. Point being if you find yourself losing to undertaker a lot, play less greedy. And yeah, silence is really good in this meta.

mures_sl said:

Actually after I thought about it again, it was a 8/9. I killed it with a doa'ed injured blademaster + auchenai/coh. Point being if you find yourself losing to undertaker a lot, play less greedy. And yeah, silence is really good in this meta.

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Seems totally legit and balanced to need to use 3 cards to deal with a 1 drop.

I think you guys should just petition Blizzard to ban aggro strategies from ladder.

Exactly. I'm pretty n00b and even I can manage that. Those early deathrattle minions are usually weak shit like Loot Hoarder and Haunted Creeper.

Exactly, how often do you get "the dream" undertaker? It requires a perfect draw for the ut person and a horrible draw for the opponent. It is rare I see a 4/5 ut, much less 8/9. And then ppl said you auto-win with a good undertaker, this guy got a perfect undertaker, I even healed it back to full health after it cleared my undertaker because of injured blademaster + coh, I didn't draw an ideal answer to it in a sw: p early, silence, or sw:d later and it still didn't get much done. And it only actually cost me one, zero cost card to clear it in coh. The injured blademaster was a 5/9 from doa and pw:s so it was still alive after he traded into it, I then traded into his highmane and auchenai + coh. It was kind of lucky getting both coh early in this case, but it was also unlucky not drawing a better answer for it sooner.

I've never had an issue with undertaker, but a turn 2 deathlord in arena has been basically un-counterable horseshit every time I see it. Whats the plan for dealing with that while they just keep throwing out more and more minions from behind his 8hp shield?