Heroes of the Storm

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Arch_sl said:

New heroes drop to 10k 2 weeks after release, I'm curious to see how the B4B and Envenom changes are going to affect certain heroes (Sylvanas at the top of the list). Anyone tried out Illidan or AA Tychus yet?

::EDIT:: Or new Malf or BW?

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I played a bunch of games as BW. Not as good as before, but still pretty solid. Polymorph is still great. More boring to play and the talents are more boring too. I used to like using sprint/envenom to track down and kill lower life people. The level 20 mist talent is good, but games often don't get that far.

sylvanas losing a small portion of damage won't budge her on the tier list.. black arrow is still way too strong to let her fall off from being top tier.
I don't think the envenom nerf will affect her all that much either

Envenom had like a 100% pick rate on her. And although not seem very much in comp play Unstable Poison can't gib a team standing in creeps anymore.

doesn't matter, envenom wasn't a crucial part of her dps anyway lol. It's like kerrigan picking evenom, nothing else was worth getting in that tier compared to it. Evenom is boring anyway so i'm glad it got nerfed across the board

Tenks_sl said:

Envenom had like a 100% pick rate on her. And although not seem very much in comp play Unstable Poison can't gib a team standing in creeps anymore.

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I didn't like the unstable change, it was just a noob punish but was still fun. She did have too much burst potential though imo with that, envenom, and b4b. I tried picking around envenom the past week to try and prep and that talent tier is really underwhelming. I guess lingering poison with the snare later on but meeeeeh.

Just noticed when you destroy the other team's core on the new map loot comes out of it like in Diablo, thought that was a neat touch.

liking butcher only played a few games though

I can definitely see uther and butcher being best buds for sure, much like illidan and uther are bosses together

Tenks_sl said:

Envenom had like a 100% pick rate on her. And although not seem very much in comp play Unstable Poison can't gib a team standing in creeps anymore.

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Paralysis > Envenom

I feel like Butcher is in a pretty good spot. He really shines at strict assassinations and unless backed up with a pocket support basically dies instantly to any coordinated focus. I was getting decent value out of him by simply going into a team fight, killing one person (using my W) and walking out. It felt if I tried to stay there with my W down I was a very easy to kill target. I think that this guy has a pretty high skill cap because not only do you need to intelligently use your E but you need to intelligently use your W as well. I was just selecting one person, throwing on W and going to town. But there were probably many times I didn't need to W my primary target and hold off on using it in case that target got blown up/escaped and I could have used my W on a different target thus securing additional value in team fights.

Needless_sl said:

I can definitely see uther and butcher being best buds for sure, much like illidan and uther are bosses together

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Did a QM with a buddy on uther last night, getting divine shield or whatever to run out of a dive is ridiculously wonderful.

If you can pull off the timing, have the butcher ult go off twice at 20, you could reasonable run in the middle of a crowd, have the first one go off as you are charging your target in the back, then explode once you land a stun/plus hamstring. Would be nice to see that happen.

Butcher w/ his Furnace armor on the money pig looks great btw

This is kind of cute on the D3 PTR

Sorry slippery and other guys.. internet died on me.