Heroes of the Storm

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Leoric is definitely a lot better than Diablo. Like him quite a lot, but I'm not a big fan of March, feels like the damage is mediocre considering you rarely hit anyone more than twice, and most of the time you only hit like 2people once or some shit. The relatively small aoe, forced movement and slow hits makes it pretty bad, even in chokepoints I feel it doesn't really do much. I'll probably just pick the wall stuff everytime, feels just a lot more useful.

The trait is pretty funny on maps like mines/curse that have teamfights really early. Quite often you die then rez and fight again in the same teamfight since they tend to last a while, and it's quite nice to not have the 30secs runback.
 
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I bought the Butcher recently, but am kinda regretting it and wish I had gotten Leoric instead. The Butcher is such a divey hero and can get really screwed by cc. Someone had mentioned that he's a better version of Thrall, but I feel like Thrall has a lot of utility with Sundering. Also, Thrall can use Windfury as an escape, whereas Butcher has to wait until 20 to get Bolt.

I guess my impression is that Butcher is great if you're in a coordinated team, but Thrall is a better choice for solo queue (which is how I mostly play).
 
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Leoric is overall a better fit for most compositions than Butcher. But when played well Butcher can be scary as fuck. You just need to figure out when to actually E into a fight. It is so easy to be the initiate as Butcher so many people initiate with his E when you really, really shouldn't.
 
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New map tomorrow

Hello everyone,

We're planning to make our newest Battleground, Infernal Shrines, available for play in all game modes starting on Wednesday, August 26. At that time, we're also going to temporarily reduce the size of our normal Battleground pool for one week in order to increase the chances that you'll be able to play on Infernal Shrines when you queue for matchmaking. The six Battlegrounds we've selected for this rotation are listed below.

Battleground Rotation: August 26 - September 2
Infernal Shrines
Battlefield of Eternity
Cursed Hollow
Dragon Shire
Sky Temple
Tomb of the Spider Queen

While Blackheart's Bay, Haunted Mines, and Garden of Terror will not be available in matchmaking game modes during this time, you can still play on them using Custom Games. We'll let you know once Infernal Shrines and the temporary Battleground Rotation have been enabled.
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BoozeCube

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Neph_sl said:
I guess my impression is that Butcher is great if you're in a coordinated team, but Thrall is a better choice for solo queue (which is how I mostly play).
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There are so many shit Butchers out there, first I feel like melee in general tend to be at a disadvantage in this game without a coordinated group. Unless people are dumb as fuck as sit toe to toe while branded he gets ass rammed often. He is just so easy to kite, but as Tenks said if you some team support and ambush then Butcher can destroy chumps.. then again I think if you have decent team support and can ambush people you were probably going to shit stomp anyways.

Whenever I see a butcher in a solo queue HL game I just hope it's the other teams pick.
 
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Butcher + Leo is pretty gross. Butcher charges in, Leo Emtombs. Anyone that can provide a consistent slow is good too like Jaina. One issue many Butchers face is when to Brand. Many, many (even ones I consider pretty good) just charge in, hamstring and then brand. But if you're at full life you could easily be leeching nothing with your branding. Or your branding target uses an escape. You really need to know who and when to brand.
 
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Is there a site for HotS like surrender at 20 is for League? I'm not interested in playing enough to keep up with everything but a site like[email protected]/* <![CDATA[ */!function(t,e,r,n,c,a,p){try{t=document.currentScript||function(){for(t=document.getElementsByTagName('script'),e=t.length;e--;)if(t[e].getAttribute('data-cfhash'))return t[e]}();if(t&&(c=t.previousSibling:emoji_nose:{p=t.parentNode;if(a=c.getAttribute('data-cfemail':emoji_nose:{for(e='',r='0x'+a.substr(0,2)|0,n=2;a.length-n;n+=2)e+='%'+('0'+('0x'+a.substr(n,2)^r).toString(16:emoji_nose:.slice(-2);p.replaceChild(document.createTextNode(decodeURIComponent(e:emoji_nose:,c)}p.removeChild(t)}}catch(u){}}()/* ]]> */makes it super easy to keep tabs on news.
 
Needless

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I have no idea what[email protected]/* <![CDATA[ */!function(t,e,r,n,c,a,p){try{t=document.currentScript||function(){for(t=document.getElementsByTagName('script'),e=t.length;e--;)if(t[e].getAttribute('data-cfhash'))return t[e]}();if(t&&(c=t.previousSibling:emoji_nose:{p=t.parentNode;if(a=c.getAttribute('data-cfemail':emoji_nose:{for(e='',r='0x'+a.substr(0,2)|0,n=2;a.length-n;n+=2)e+='%'+('0'+('0x'+a.substr(n,2)^r).toString(16:emoji_nose:.slice(-2);p.replaceChild(document.createTextNode(decodeURIComponent(e:emoji_nose:,c)}p.removeChild(t)}}catch(u){}}()/* ]]> */is but hots has sites like heroesfire.com heroesnexus.com /r/heroesofthestorm to name a few.
 
Qhue

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Infernal Shrines seems unbalanced. If you get the shrine the first time you end up with significant momentum that carries through the rest of the game it seems.
 
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I have a feeling my time with this game may be nearing the end. Solo queue has just gotten beyond abysmal. When the game is good it is the best MOBA experience out there. When the game is bad it is the most frustrating anti-fun thing on the planet. Blizzard really should look into implementing a proper ranked solo queue. I'd like to see metrics on how many players queue solo vs in a party. I imagine it has to be fairly high for solo bias. I used to enjoy solo queue when the game was in alpha/beta but it seems since the game has grown in popularity recently the experience has plummeted.
 
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The matchmaking system is certainly something that need to focus on the for the long term health of the game, not even just in ranked by in quickmatch as well. I know they don't want to add to many restrictions and in theory any group of 5 heros should be able to go against any other 5 heros but the balance doesn't work that way.

One thing that might help ranked is to remove daily quests from them, because you do get shit fuckers who decide I am going to play XX for my 200g instead of picking a character who is the best fit.
 
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daily quests just need to be more generalized and not force people into shitty roles. more play x games, win x games, etc.. less play a warrior in hero league when you're trash at warrior type dailies lol

STARCRAFT DAILY AND SUPPORT? WELP BETTER PICK TASSADAR IN THIS TEAM COMP THAT DOESNT NEED HIM AT ALL!
 
Pyros

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Needless_sl said:
daily quests just need to be more generalized and not force people into shitty roles. more play x games, win x games, etc.. less play a warrior in hero league when you're trash at warrior type dailies lol

STARCRAFT DAILY AND SUPPORT? WELP BETTER PICK TASSADAR IN THIS TEAM COMP THAT DOESNT NEED HIM AT ALL!
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But how can they sell you heroes if you don't have to pick them for daillies.
 
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I know the content creation team probably doesn't overlap with the "fix it" team but it feels like the game keeps adding more and more content but doesn't go back and tidy up after itself
 
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Tenks_sl said:
I have a feeling my time with this game may be nearing the end. Solo queue has just gotten beyond abysmal. When the game is good it is the best MOBA experience out there. When the game is bad it is the most frustrating anti-fun thing on the planet. Blizzard really should look into implementing a proper ranked solo queue. I'd like to see metrics on how many players queue solo vs in a party. I imagine it has to be fairly high for solo bias. I used to enjoy solo queue when the game was in alpha/beta but it seems since the game has grown in popularity recently the experience has plummeted.
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Yeah, I'm in the same boat. And with season 4 of D3 starting, I think I'm going to take a break, outside of QMing dailies.

The matchmaking is absolutely horrid and mars an otherwise extremely fun game. There are so many trolls and people with "idgaf" attitudes that finding a good game is almost impossible. Even a loss in a tightly matched game is extremely satisfying. However, watching somebody pick Chen when we need DPS and have a warrior slot filled, two fuckers lane instead of teamfight over an objective, or a Leoric continue to feed because he "respawns fast", are situations that make me rage to the point of it not really being much fun.

In essence, the 1-2 solid games you get out of every 10 just isn't worth it until they mess with the algorithms on matchmaking.
 
Needless

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Pyros_sl said:
But how can they sell you heroes if you don't have to pick them for daillies.
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Thats for blizzard's marketing team to figure out!

regardless, Fun != forcing people into rolls they don't enjoy

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I'm not completely over the game by any means, but it's almost impossible to play and have fun without at least 4 man queueing, preferably 5 man considering i of the 4 usual people i play with am the only one that actually likes to play Assassin roles, so the last PUG assassins we usually get are trash
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joz123

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Kirun_sl said:
Yeah, I'm in the same boat. And with season 4 of D3 starting, I think I'm going to take a break, outside of QMing dailies.

The matchmaking is absolutely horrid and mars an otherwise extremely fun game. There are so many trolls and people with "idgaf" attitudes that finding a good game is almost impossible. Even a loss in a tightly matched game is extremely satisfying. However, watching somebody pick Chen when we need DPS and have a warrior slot filled, two fuckers lane instead of teamfight over an objective, or a Leoric continue to feed because he "respawns fast", are situations that make me rage to the point of it not really being much fun.

In essence, the 1-2 solid games you get out of every 10 just isn't worth it until they mess with the algorithms on matchmaking.
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Just do what I did and play VS AI for a while. You wont rank up or anything but its more carefree and you still get gold/xp so its not a total loss. Lots more fun then being forced to play matches you know your team has 0 chance of winning.
 
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Tenks

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Why would I dedicate even 5 minutes of my life just to complete dailies for a game I don't even find fun anymore? If you're just playing vs AI for make believe gold it maybe time to step back and figure out if this is actually the game for you.
 
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Tenks_sl said:
Why would I dedicate even 5 minutes of my life just to complete dailies for a game I don't even find fun anymore? If you're just playing vs AI for make believe gold it maybe time to step back and figure out if this is actually the game for you.
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Uh... So are you inferring that it's only make believe gold when you're playing against AI? and that it becomes REAL gold as soon as you play against a real person?
 
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