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The "lore" is flimsy at best and outright unexplored and recklessly expanded upon on average. In spite of that there some really, really cool ideas introduced like keeping immortals hidden and in a permanent state of coma so that no immortal could actually win "the prize". That was gnarly.

Completely unrelated but I want a Forever Knight reboot that isn't made for a modern audience and instead made for an audience in general.
 
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The energy release is subject to how the immortal was killed. Iirc, there was an immortal blown up and the energy became part of the explosion.
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So the immortal still dies, but the Quickening can't happen?
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Pretty sure immortala have died by other means with no other immortals close enough and nothing happened.
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It goes to “The Source” is the official thing, and that preceded the movie in the lore.

Its why someone would want to find the source to then get all that power….

Or make glow baby
 
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TBT-TheBigToe said:
The "lore" is flimsy at best and outright unexplored and recklessly expanded upon on average. In spite of that there some really, really cool ideas introduced like keeping immortals hidden and in a permanent state of coma so that no immortal could actually win "the prize". That was gnarly.

Completely unrelated but I want a Forever Knight reboot that isn't made for a modern audience and instead made for an audience in general.
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You know another show that Forever Knight reminded of, Brimstone on Fox. Both were great shows though.
 
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TBT-TheBigToe said:
Completely unrelated but I want a Forever Knight reboot that isn't made for a modern audience and instead made for an audience in general.
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Wow I totally forgot about Forever Knight… that’ll be my next rewatch since I just finished Andromeda and The Dead Zone.

Also completely unrelated I put the old Dinosaurs show on for the kids to laugh at and my wife walked in and had an epiphany that she’d forgotten about that show. It was pretty funny watching her go from “WTF are you watching?” to “OMG OMG this show!”She’s 38 so was young when it aired.

hahaha Brimstone. Lori fucking Petty and Teri Polo. Holy shit forgot about that too.
 
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Wow I totally forgot about Forever Knight… that’ll be my next rewatch since I just finished Andromeda and The Dead Zone.

Also completely unrelated I put the old Dinosaurs show on for the kids to laugh at and my wife walked in and had an epiphany that she’d forgotten about that show. It was pretty funny watching her go from “WTF are you watching?” to “OMG OMG this show!”She’s 38 so was young when it aired.

hahaha Brimstone. Lori fucking Petty and Teri Polo. Holy shit forgot about that too.
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Dinosaurs is awesome, sad ending.

NOT THE MAMA!

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Goatface said:
The energy release is subject to how the immortal was killed. Iirc, there was an immortal blown up and the energy became part of the explosion.
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I read the novelization back in the days when the OG film came out. It was implied that unless another immortal beheaded them, an immortal was unkillable and would return, albiet potentially fucked up by the experience. This contradicts the show with the shit the Watchers were doing at times, but it would be better for story reasons. Essentially whatever caused the immortals to manifest (novelization implies each civilization had one avatar who manifested to rep them or something like that) set specific rules about what one could or could not do in the duels. Show threw most of that out as did the later movies, to a large degree. IIRC the novelization mentioned a Jap immortal who was vaporized at Nagasaki who came back to life and was completely batshit insane after and there was some sort of horrific fate for anyone who broke the holy ground rule, but I can't remember. Wish I had kept that book, it was pretty good and drawn from the script creator's basic ideas for lore.
 
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I’m happy with the original “The Force” premise. Who fucking cares what it is or where it came from? It exists and thems the rules, learned the hard way from thousands of years of observation and experience.
 
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This looks way more like he's playing Duncan than Connor.

So they're just NOW starting to film this? Da fuq were they doing for the past ten years?

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Pretty sure immortala have died by other means with no other immortals close enough and nothing happened.
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Yeah, the energy just goes nowhere, in theory, if no one is close enough to get the quickening.

Trying to remember what happened with Mikey, the special needs dude who liked trains. He's immortal, and stuck in this body that can't defend himself and is a liability to everyone, so he just goes off and kills himself by letting a train drive over his head. It's a pretty fucked up deal.

Can't recall if his quickening just went nowhere, or if it flew into Richie. Probably flew right past Duncan and into Rich. It'd be on brand for the writers to give Richie the quickening of a helpless mentally deficient immortal.

All of this makes me wonder how the hell immortals killed each other before swords and edged weapons existed. Not to get into the gory details of whether neanderthals had the strength to rip off heads, I mean from a writing perspective, what happened in the story before swords?

Did immortals not exist yet? Did they exist but none of them ever died?

Oldest one in the canon is Methos at "around 5000" and then you have Kronos who could be anywhere from 4000 to over 5. So the very first were Bronze Age, which is convenient.

The Source, if anyone counts it as canon, talks about immortals existing 10,000 years ago, and shows a bunch of folks walking through a desert. That doesn't tell us much, and I doubt any thought went into it, so IDK.
 
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I read the novelization back in the days when the OG film came out. It was implied that unless another immortal beheaded them, an immortal was unkillable and would return, albiet potentially fucked up by the experience. This contradicts the show with the shit the Watchers were doing at times, but it would be better for story reasons. Essentially whatever caused the immortals to manifest (novelization implies each civilization had one avatar who manifested to rep them or something like that) set specific rules about what one could or could not do in the duels. Show threw most of that out as did the later movies, to a large degree. IIRC the novelization mentioned a Jap immortal who was vaporized at Nagasaki who came back to life and was completely batshit insane after and there was some sort of horrific fate for anyone who broke the holy ground rule, but I can't remember. Wish I had kept that book, it was pretty good and drawn from the script creator's basic ideas for lore.
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As I recall, there's only one documented instance of an immortal killing another one on holy ground:

Pompeii, right before the volcano blew up.
 
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This looks way more like he's playing Duncan than Connor.

So they're just NOW starting to film this? Da fuq were they doing for the past ten years?



Yeah, the energy just goes nowhere, in theory, if no one is close enough to get the quickening.

Trying to remember what happened with Mikey, the special needs dude who liked trains. He's immortal, and stuck in this body that can't defend himself and is a liability to everyone, so he just goes off and kills himself by letting a train drive over his head. It's a pretty fucked up deal.

Can't recall if his quickening just went nowhere, or if it flew into Richie. Probably flew right past Duncan and into Rich. It'd be on brand for the writers to give Richie the quickening of a helpless mentally deficient immortal.

All of this makes me wonder how the hell immortals killed each other before swords and edged weapons existed. Not to get into the gory details of whether neanderthals had the strength to rip off heads, I mean from a writing perspective, what happened in the story before swords?

Did immortals not exist yet? Did they exist but none of them ever died?

Oldest one in the canon is Methos at "around 5000" and then you have Kronos who could be anywhere from 4000 to over 5. So the very first were Bronze Age, which is convenient.

The Source, if anyone counts it as canon, talks about immortals existing 10,000 years ago, and shows a bunch of folks walking through a desert. That doesn't tell us much, and I doubt any thought went into it, so IDK.
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18 years. Almost 2 decades since announcement to just now start filming.
 
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Rajaah said:
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This looks way more like he's playing Duncan than Connor.

So they're just NOW starting to film this? Da fuq were they doing for the past ten years?



Yeah, the energy just goes nowhere, in theory, if no one is close enough to get the quickening.

Trying to remember what happened with Mikey, the special needs dude who liked trains. He's immortal, and stuck in this body that can't defend himself and is a liability to everyone, so he just goes off and kills himself by letting a train drive over his head. It's a pretty fucked up deal.

Can't recall if his quickening just went nowhere, or if it flew into Richie. Probably flew right past Duncan and into Rich. It'd be on brand for the writers to give Richie the quickening of a helpless mentally deficient immortal.

All of this makes me wonder how the hell immortals killed each other before swords and edged weapons existed. Not to get into the gory details of whether neanderthals had the strength to rip off heads, I mean from a writing perspective, what happened in the story before swords?

Did immortals not exist yet? Did they exist but none of them ever died?

Oldest one in the canon is Methos at "around 5000" and then you have Kronos who could be anywhere from 4000 to over 5. So the very first were Bronze Age, which is convenient.

The Source, if anyone counts it as canon, talks about immortals existing 10,000 years ago, and shows a bunch of folks walking through a desert. That doesn't tell us much, and I doubt any thought went into it, so IDK.
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Yeah and this one seems to look more Connor... but with his facial structure and hair color it will always /seem/ more Duncan


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Okay just finished re-watching Highlander 2 renegade edition...

LOL the final quickening is pathetic as is that final fight... almost nothing in this movie makes any sense, and not just "the lore" - but essentially ALL things are completely disjointed.

We gatta rescue this dude that Connor worked with to make the shield, he knows the coordinates for where there is a break in the shield and they can go there and see if the ozone fixed itself. He is in MAX! the super prison.. well it is more of a few sewer hallways and he is taking a nap at the end of one, but dies.... then your gang o bros wonders into THE FAN DECAPITATION ROOM! oh noes!

Well they escape because reasons and Ramerez summoned all his power up into one moment and...whatever... it also makes no sense how you can just yell people back to life...

THEN they go to the super secret coordinates that has a big sign "SHIELD CEILING" apparently it was a bridge to far to make a shield that COVERS THE ENTIRE EARTH but, it just cant be tall enough to get past some mountains.. and there is a tunnel and a ladder that will take you beyond the shield... but no one that built this thing knew of it...but..whatever....

Then the end, in the big reactor room... "You together have the power to destroy the shield!" ... or...just Connor... by himself...just kinda...yeah.
 
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