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Yeah, this guy is a perfectionist and I'm not. Probably the more likely scenario is that he'll be trying to make it perfect and I'll be trying to speed him up.
 

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Yeah, this guy is a perfectionist and I'm not. Probably the more likely scenario is that he'll be trying to make it perfect and I'll be trying to speed him up.
maybe it's good to be a perfectionist when dealing w/ water on 100psi

i'm sure you've shown him this
 
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Hateyou Hateyou just checking up on this thread. Water filters for the whole house are nice, your installation looks like dogshit, but whatever your house. Quick question, how are you gonna change the filter every 6 months?
 

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Hateyou Hateyou just checking up on this thread. Water filters for the whole house are nice, your installation looks like dogshit, but whatever your house. Quick question, how are you gonna change the filter every 6 months?
It’s temporary install because it’s unfinished basement atm, don’t care what it looks like.

The shutoff valve above the filter.
 

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Yes that valve stops the supply from the street to the filter. How are you going to stop all the water already in your house from pouring on your floor when you remove the container?
 
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Also, the flexible houses are a disaster in this situation. The constant wear and tear as water starts and stops will wear them out, eventually they’ll leak and ruin your basement. That should be hard piped with a union. Those hoses should only be used on appliances where you turn off the water after use, like a washing machine.
 
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Also, the flexible houses are a disaster in this situation. The constant wear and tear as water starts and stops will wear them out, eventually they’ll leak and ruin your basement. That should be hard piped with a union. Those hoses should only be used on appliances where you turn off the water after use, like a washing machine.
Cool thanks. I’ll redo those when we finish.
 

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Uber thinks you should have paid a plumber $1800 to put that in. You do need a valve on the other side of your filter though.

My well pumps a ton of sand and would clog up the filter in a month so I swapped out my whole house filter for this one:

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I love it. I just go down there every couple of days and turn the valve for a second to blow the sand out and then if my shower starts to lose pressure I take the mesh element out and rinse it off and it's good as new. Only 50 micron but I have $5000 worth of water treatment bullshit on the output of it to get rid of the small stuff.
 

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Uber thinks you should have paid a plumber $1800 to put that in. You do need a valve on the other side of your filter though.

My well pumps a ton of sand and would clog up the filter in a month so I swapped out my whole house filter for this one:

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I love it. I just go down there every couple of days and turn the valve for a second to blow the sand out and then if my shower starts to lose pressure I take the mesh element out and rinse it off and it's good as new. Only 50 micron but I have $5000 worth of water treatment bullshit on the output of it to get rid of the small stuff.
Why do I need a valve on the other side? The valve is before the input of the water filter. I thought I just needed one before the input for when I need to kill the flow to change the filter. The filter is before the water softener I just had to route it weird over the top like that because of where the softener is sitting on the left.
 

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When you take the filter off all the water in your pipes in the house will drain back out of the filter.
 

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When you take the filter off all the water in your pipes in the house will drain back out of the filter.
Oh ok. Yeah there’s a valve after the softener to stop that. I could always add one closer though, it wasn’t expensive. The only real issue I had was finding the right fittings. Our Lowe’s is small and the selection sucked. That was what made me grab those flexible hoses on the softener, they just didn’t have another option.
 
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People can pay whatever they want. I just give sound plumbing advice. That installation is dogshit, I just wanted to point that out in case anyone here was going to replicate it. He also doesn’t have a bypass. If the filter interior or case gets damaged he is without water. It’s just a very poor installation.
 

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People can pay whatever they want. I just give sound plumbing advice. That installation is dogshit, I just wanted to point that out in case anyone here was going to replicate it. He also doesn’t have a bypass. If the filter interior or case gets damaged he is without water. It’s just a very poor installation.
Brutal!

I’ll be adding a bypass. This was just a get it fucking done so wife stops bitching at me deal. When we had the whole house humidifier installed for some reason she started harping on the softener like it was a dire situation every single day, after four years of not having one. I don’t know if she thinks having hard water would destroy the humidifier or what. I just got tired of it and slapped it all in. Her and the kid are going out of town next weekend so I’ll have time to myself to rework the stuff I’m not happy with.
 

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Brutal!

I’ll be adding a bypass. This was just a get it fucking done so wife stops bitching at me deal. When we had the whole house humidifier installed for some reason she started harping on the softener like it was a dire situation every single day, after four years of not having one. I don’t know if she thinks having hard water would destroy the humidifier or what. I just got tired of it and slapped it all in. Her and the kid are going out of town next weekend so I’ll have time to myself to rework the stuff I’m not happy with.
This entire post is so relatable lmao
 

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This entire post is so relatable lmao
I understand when they want to get a project done, what I don’t understand is the time table swings. It goes from no problem or even a mention for months to years to out of nowhere “this needs to get done like this weekend or after work every day.” Nothing changed, Wtf? No idea what triggers that shit.
 
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Got a quote to run a propane line for a gas stove that I already bought at my house. $1600 to run a line ~50 feet in a basement with a drop ceiling. $400 in material and $1200 in labor. That includes an hour of driving to get here and another one to get back but I'm still sort of shocked at that price. I don't really see how the job takes more than an hour or so but maybe I don't know what I'm talking about.

Anybody think this is out of line?
It depends. What type of line are they running? copper or trac pipe are pretty easy to install and save a bunch on labor over black iron pipe. If your basement is a dump and theres stuff they need to move or access is poor, that adds to the cost as well. It's also possible they dont want the job and bid it sky high. Most good hvac contractors are more than busy year round, and are not interested in small jobs like this because theres more money to be made elsewhere.
 

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It depends. What type of line are they running? copper or trac pipe are pretty easy to install and save a bunch on labor over black iron pipe. If your basement is a dump and theres stuff they need to move or access is poor, that adds to the cost as well. It's also possible they dont want the job and bid it sky high. Most good hvac contractors are more than busy year round, and are not interested in small jobs like this because theres more money to be made elsewhere.
His brother in law is doing it for him for a case of Miller Lite and some nachos.
 
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BrutulTM

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It depends. What type of line are they running? copper or trac pipe are pretty easy to install and save a bunch on labor over black iron pipe. If your basement is a dump and theres stuff they need to move or access is poor, that adds to the cost as well. It's also possible they dont want the job and bid it sky high. Most good hvac contractors are more than busy year round, and are not interested in small jobs like this because theres more money to be made elsewhere.

I'm guessing they were being conservative about the bid because they couldn't come look at it and didn't know what they would run into. They also wanted to send two guys so there's 4 hours of whatever they bill their guys out at before they even start the job. I think there's a good chance that the actual bill would have been lower because this job is going to be a piece of cake but he didn't know that. They aren't scammers, they have been in business with the same people for decades and it's a small town. They've done quite a few jobs for us in the past and they aren't cheap but they are honest and do good work. The quote blew my mind though. We'll see if I underestimated the job but I'm guessing the brother and law and I can knock it out in under an hour and maybe $200 in material.
 
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