Interesting, Non Political News

Fogel said:

I'm going to start a business where you send your kid to get blasted with sawdust and eat all the major allergens once a week.

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We used to call that "life".

I read an article a couple of years ago about how much peanut allergies are a problem in England because they don't eat peanut butter and such and the amount they eat gets lower each year because of all the allergies.

Cybsled said:

Focus less on the barn and more on why the barn has stuff like that. There have been past studies that show that babies who grow up in houses with pets, or small kids who play outside in the dirt, tend to have more robust immune systems and a lower incidence rate of allergies.

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Yeah but the article explains why the focused on the barn specifically. It isnt just "be around animals in some way".

They were very specifically comparing Amish kids with another group that lives a similar primitive lifestyle. The only real meaningful difference is whether they're in the barn before 12 or not. Amish kids are in the barn every day, the other group never was until after 12.

They also studied the dust in Amish barns and found it was unusually high in bacterial content.

Putting it together, its not just "have like a pet or something". Its expose children to highly antigenic material, early in life, repeatedly. Yes there have been studies showing benefits to pet exposure. No, I do not think little Fifi the rat dog, sitting in a nearly sterile house that has a robot vacuum on each floor, has anything near the same effect as Amish barn dust.

Again I come back to my main objection. The article found the surefire method for preventing allergies, but then just refuses to consider actually applying it. They just fixate on weird workarounds. "Cmon thats silly nobody can have an actual barn or farm animals!"

No, there was no mention of hose water in the article, or anything like that

And my post was only slightly longer than the average tweet

And the Amish kids werent just better than "modern bubble kids"; they were better than the Hutterite kids that lived a very similar primitive lifestyle with the only major difference being barn dust exposure before the age of 12

Trying to carry on communication with a society that increasingly refuses to read anything, it grows more difficult every day. Perhaps there is a vertical video with single word captions somewhere that would be more your speed?

The barn ultimately doesn’t matter, it’s the frequency of exposure and age of exposure to various micro organisms. It just so happens the exposure mechanism here was a barn

There are other studies that came to similar conclusions and virtually all of them involved exposure to stuff outdoors, either directly or indirectly

On the flip side, that can also increase risk of parasites. The systems that cause severe allergic reactions are also the systems specially designed to combat things like parasitic worms

MusicForFish said:

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I imagine all muscles help with blood flow in the body. It must not be all that important though, otherwise how would people who have lost both legs....survive?

Might be interesting as an added CPR technique. If you have the people, have two of them squeeze the calves in between the chest compressions.

Mahes said:

I imagine all muscles help with blood flow in the body. It must not be all that important though, otherwise how would people who have lost both legs....survive?

Might be interesting as an added CPR technique. If you have the people, have two of them squeeze the calves in between the chest compressions.

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It's not important for people that don't have legs because they don't have to worry about blood pooling (clotting) in their legs. Legs/feet are the most distal blood gets from the heart and it also has to return against gravity most of the time (lying down feet elevated obviously is a case where this isn't true). It's one of the reasons you often see fluid retention and peripheral nephropathy in feet and ankles before other parts of the body.