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Rangoth

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Up again in the afterhours all over. This thread has been so wonderful to learn from. Markets do market things. I stopped trying to pick winners and losers. I either flat out gamble or play technical charts.
 
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Holy moly, I have SPX calls expiring tomorrow that might print. This move on SPY is nuts, hope it holds through premarket
 

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Are yoiu ready for the Joe Biden economy tomorrow?

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This seems to be missing an understanding of what backing a currency with gold is, versus trading in actual gold. Requiring gold and silver to be accepted as legal tender is insane, because as said, it means every single transaction needs to be able to be conducted in gold or silver now, and if you don't comply, you're breaking the law.

What, you don't want more avenues for crazy leftists to persecute normal businesspeople ala gay wedding cakes?
 
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Nah, it's just a way for all the fucking boomers that live in FL. to flex a superiority complex and virtue signal about, "MUH GOLD STANDARD!!!!!".

It changes nothing, but it gives all those fucking 70 year olds something to talk about on the golf course.

Ignoring the logistics, the first thing they'll realize is that this is a giant clusterfuck because now they have to keep track of the floating dollar <> gold exchange rate.
 
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I mean, in theory if I were a vendor, I'd just have a different gold price, and it'd be exorbitant. Although, now that I'm thinking about it, how do you deal with counterfeit gold?

But the whole thing is retarded.
 
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Haus

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This seems to be missing an understanding of what backing a currency with gold is, versus trading in actual gold. Requiring gold and silver to be accepted as legal tender is insane, because as said, it means every single transaction needs to be able to be conducted in gold or silver now, and if you don't comply, you're breaking the law.
But in a scenario where cash, gold, and silver are all legal tender.... Why in the name of God would you EVER spend gold or silver instead of cash? Your cash is CONSTANTLY being devalued and debased, the metals aren't. You should be spending the cash to buy more gold and silver...
 
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Rangoth

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This is my concern with bitcoin, while I understand the dollar loses value, why would I buy so,ething with bitcoin when within 3 months the value will fluctuate 20%? It only works as a currency if other money goes away, which it clearly will not anytime soon. So at best it’s a hedge, like gold for the foreseeable future.
 

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So the open is going to be interesting. If you believe the courts have the right to say the President cant issue tariffs then you expect markets to run wild going forward. If you think this gets overturned, then the run gets sold off hard as soon as it's overturned.

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tugofpeace

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So the open is going to be interesting. If you believe the courts have the right to say the President cant issue tariffs then you expect markets to run wild going forward. If you think this gets overturned, then the run gets sold off hard as soon as it's overturned.

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I'd be surprised if it gets overturned by morning. Funds wouldn't be piling into the indices if that was a likely outcome right?
 
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Haus

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I'd be surprised if it gets overturned by morning. Funds wouldn't be piling into the indices if that was a likely outcome right?
And he has two options for re-issuing the tariffs (The Tariff Act itself and the Reciprocal Tariff Act) which would both be far harder to find legal basis to overturn. This injunction/judgement was over him using the economic emergency powers BS.
 
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Arden

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This is my concern with bitcoin, while I understand the dollar loses value, why would I buy so,ething with bitcoin when within 3 months the value will fluctuate 20%? It only works as a currency if other money goes away, which it clearly will not anytime soon. So at best it’s a hedge, like gold for the foreseeable future.

Ofc. This is ONE of the reasons why BTC was never going to be the day to day common currency. It doesn't need to be. BTC's value is as an appreciating store of wealth.

Is it a hedge? Yes. Is it a life raft against fiat debasement? Absolutely. Are you going to go into a 7-11 to buy a Gatorade with it? Probably not.

You might as well go down to Florida and shave a sliver off your gold bar to buy a burrito at Chipotle- same idea.

Good luck trying to tell a BTC maxi this, of course, but normal people come to this realization pretty quickly.

(Yes, Layer 2/3 solutions aim to make microtransactions viable. Maybe someday those stack layers will smooth things out enough for seamless, everyday use. But let’s be honest, that’s a big "maybe," and most normal people aren’t interested in going through that process just to buy a Gatorade.)
 

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While markets are euphoric with this court ruling on tariffs, the elephant in the room now becomes the current spending plans / tax cuts, which were supposed to be financed via tariff revenues.

Bullish continuation and new ATHs are still challenged with even more economic uncertainty now.

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Kithani

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While markets are euphoric with this court ruling on tariffs, the elephant in the room now becomes the current spending plans / tax cuts, which were supposed to be financed via tariff revenues.

Bullish continuation and new ATHs are still challenged with even more economic uncertainty now.

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Doesn’t that just lean even harder into Blazin’s “money printer go brrrr, stocks go vroom vroom, but purchasing power take da boom boom” theory?
 
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