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Looking like the coworker who got on a PIP last year (and survived it) is going down that road again. I've been mentoring him since he started but he's getting this weird ego for lack of a better word. He wants a role like mine as I have been essentially cross training him into more of a developer role (he's never been a dev in his career). Now he can get by but its overwhelmingly obvious he does not understand certain key principles like designing code that can be reused. Nor is he able to come up with clear solutions to things.

It's been annoying me in conversations where I bring up some issue and he literally just starts saying random shit. Like he's pretending to have an answer but he is making shit up and has no idea what he is talking about. But it sort of sounds technical like he heard about it somewhere. I get on his case about it whenever he does it, which is often, and then he just goes "well I didn't know that." Or some other bullshit.

It's been annoying me but I don't really voice these things to people and just continue on. My Director came back to me and was like "what is up with this dude?" So it isn't just me. I gave him a somewhat important task that had to be done this month and he has poorly half-assed it. When presenting it to the stakeholders the lead stakeholder immediately complained to me after that it doesn't meet half the requirements and everything about it is shit. Which is true.

That task is falling upon me now, so whatever I guess. I don't think he'll survive it this time.
 
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TJT said:
Now he can get by but its overwhelmingly obvious he does not understand certain key principles like designing code that can be reused. Nor is he able to come up with clear solutions to things.
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It looks like you are experiencing firsthand what "Mount Stupid" of the Dunning-Kruger effect looks like.

The good news is, that this is a skill that can be learned. The bad news is, that it isn't necessarily a skill that can be taught.
 
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Had to post it here as none of my friends get this humor. But my coworkers fucking died.
 
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Kind of going through something similar for a coworker. Technically he was hired for me, but I'm sharing him with our greater team so he can come up to speed on our technologies.

Had an informal meeting with the boss and he mentioned the dude is really struggling. His daily status is always "still working on the ticket" (literally that is his entire status. We decided we'd give him a bit more hands on help.

He's been spinning a week unable to get his debug prints to come out. We check with him and he never turned debug prints on...

Got that working and his code starts crashing the product with a null pointer exception. His debug print had like 4 variables getting printed but the parameters he gave was half that. Also they were in reverse order and one of them he was printing as a string but it was an integer. It's basically printf, so you know what I mean.

Anyways he asked us why the debug print was causing an exception, we said we thought his print was wrong and he couldn't figure out what was wrong with it. I've never in my career see someone fail to grasp printf

It was something like

Printf("%d %s %d %d\n", val1, val2);
 
Khane

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The funniest thing about that story is it's something you could, and should prompt AI for and apparently your coworker is even too stupid to do that.

That's next level. Makes me think he's one of those hires that used a ghost interviewer. Its highly unlikely someone with any tech background at all would be that clueless.
 
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Khane said:
The funniest thing about that story is it's something you could, and should prompt AI for and apparently your coworker is even too stupid to do that.

That's next level. Makes me think he's one of those hires that used a ghost interviewer. Its highly unlikely someone with any tech background at all would be that clueless.
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Yeah I mean debug prints are like the one thing I've found AI is great at.

I mean we've all made the mistake of accidentally dereferencing a pointer or used a null pointer or something and caused issues, but AI makes it braindead easy.
 
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Khane

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GEOTUS doing GEOTUS things. Hopefully he has a good plan to kick the nutsacks in on the companies doing massive outsourcing as well.
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He won't, the h1b shit was low hanging fruit that fit right in with the deportation narrative, and it won't make any difference whatsoever for us in this field. If h1bs are an open sore, outsourcing is a galactic nuclear warhead, and none of our politicians seem to give a shit.
 
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He won't, the h1b shit was low hanging fruit that fit right in with the deportation narrative, and it won't make any difference whatsoever for us in this field. If h1bs are an open sore, outsourcing is a galactic nuclear warhead, and none of our politicians seem to give a shit.
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Yes, we have multiple problems that need to be addressed. At least he is getting one out of the way. Literally miles better than any other president in the past 100 years, maybe more. Reagan had decent ideas, but was utterly worthless in getting them enacted. The amnesty debacle will always be one of the defining moments of his administration.
 
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Yes, we have multiple problems that need to be addressed. At least he is getting one out of the way. Literally miles better than any other president in the past 100 years, maybe more. Reagan had decent ideas, but was utterly worthless in getting them enacted. The amnesty debacle will always be one of the defining moments of his administration.
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Yea sure bud. I love it when the politics dipshits creep out into real discussion threads and shit them up.
 
Khane

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It's lame duck, bloviating, horse shit policy, and nothing will come of it. But yea, he's definitely removing a "problem", while ignoring the actual problem.

And the H1B scenario is not a political issue, it's a social dynamic that changed about 30 years ago and deeply entrenched itself into what used to be a small subset of our economy that has grown huge. And now misinformed people are pretending it's a driving force behind young college graduates finding it difficult to get employment.

Can't wait for this administration to continue ignoring the real problem while crying about newspapers and talk show hosts bad mouthing him and trying to sue them. Greatest President in 100 years.... go back to your fucking hole.
 
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Khane said:
He won't, the h1b shit was low hanging fruit that fit right in with the deportation narrative, and it won't make any difference whatsoever for us in this field. If h1bs are an open sore, outsourcing is a galactic nuclear warhead, and none of our politicians seem to give a shit.
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HIRE Act Would Impose Excise Tax on Outsourcing Payments

Sen. Bernie Moreno has proposed the HIRE Act, which would introduce a 25% excise tax and deny deductions for certain payments related to offshoring services that benefit U.S. consumers. This legislation targets outsourcing arrangements, such as call centers and shared service centers, and...
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Khane

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HIRE Act Would Impose Excise Tax on Outsourcing Payments

Sen. Bernie Moreno has proposed the HIRE Act, which would introduce a 25% excise tax and deny deductions for certain payments related to offshoring services that benefit U.S. consumers. This legislation targets outsourcing arrangements, such as call centers and shared service centers, and...
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i know right schitts creek GIF by CBC
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Good, some of them are paying attention. But I do have some questions about the language in that act that you would know a lot more about than I would. (and 25% isn't nearly enough).

A “foreign person” is defined broadly to include all non-U.S. persons, with an exception for corporations or partnerships organized under the laws of a U.S. possession. The bill provides no further definition of labor or services “the benefit of which is directly or indirectly directed to U.S. consumers.” This standard is potentially broad and could affect a wide range of payments and activities. The lack of key definitions could make the proposal difficult to administer, and guidance would be needed.
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That seems overly dubious. What does this mean for corporations (like the one I work for) who have opened offices in India and Brazil and have been systematically laying off personnel in our US based offices and refilling those roles with personnel from those off-shore offices? This is what is starting to happen very rapidly. These corporations are not hiring consulting firms or agencies anymore and they have been, for a while now, specifically avoided any H1B hiring, they are bringing the off-shoring "in-house".

This also doesn't help:

Sen. Moreno is new to the Senate and is not a member of the tax writing committee. He attempted to bring the bill up on the Senate floor by unanimous consent on Sept. 17, but was blocked by Democrats. It is unclear whether the bill has the potential to gain any momentum in the near term. No cosponsors from either party have been announced, and Senate leadership has not indicated any plans to advance it.
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Sigh.
 
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Khane said:
Good, some of them are paying attention. But I do have some questions about the language in that act that you would know a lot more about than I would. (and 25% isn't nearly enough).



That seems overly dubious. What does this mean for corporations (like the one I work for) who have opened offices in India and Brazil and have been systematically laying off personnel in our US based offices and refilling those roles with personnel from those off-shore offices? This is what is starting to happen very rapidly. These corporations are not hiring consulting firms or agencies anymore and they have been, for a while now, specifically avoided any H1B hiring, they are bringing the off-shoring "in-house".

This also doesn't help:



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It's a tax on payments to any foreign person or company that in any way relates to goods or services to US consumers.

If you directly hire a foreign person in India to work directly for you at Oracle, for example, I assume you need to pay them yes? This would be a 25% tax on those payments.

I agree 25% doesn't seem like enough, but like all things, it's a start. Better than 0%.
 
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