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That sounds awesome. I've ever set foot in Algonquin, but it's on the list.
Every year I'm up in lady Evelyn smoothwater for a week. But this is motor boat camping. Nothing survival
Kayak and Canoe Thread
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Every year I'm up in lady Evelyn smoothwater for a week. But this is motor boat camping. Nothing survival
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Canoe camping doesn't have to be survival. If you're doing a lot of canoeing with not all that much portaging you can carry huge amounts of provisions. I know someone who brings a Weber grill canoe camping, and eats steaks.
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Most of the time it isn't, but if you're going out by yourself you should be prepared for the potential to survive on your own longer than expected. All you really need is a way to consume water and a way to stay warm. Filters are light and small enough there's no reason not to have one available. I like and often do bring lots of other things with me into the wild, but I never forget that they are the luxuries.
It's probably a challenge to get horribly lost on a canoe, but it's also best to discourage people who aren't confident from attempting those sort of things. Not everyone has a good sense of direction.
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It's actually not that hard to get lost on a canoe trip. I know people who have done it. Reading a map is a lost art.
But yeah, bring the water filter for sure. And dehydrated food.
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There is simply not as much cargo space in a kayak. And they are just not as well suited to two people.
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Asshat Foler
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Grabbing another yak today. Those Eddyline Caribbean’s are so fucking sexy and light but I just don’t trust thermoformed kayaks on the river though. When it’s low water (all year but summer) it’s easy to hit/scrape the rare protruding log or rock. If I was buying the kayak for myself only then maybe I’d risk it but it’s for guests….
I was looking at the perception tribe 11.5 but after having a tarpon 120 I think it’s worth the extra money… Having the footrest be adjustable is a huge bonus. Another alternative is a native falcon 11. Has adjustable foot rest however it’s 1.5 ft shorter than the tarpon so a little concerned how it’ll track and stability. It’s wider than the tarpon by 1.5 inches so maybe it could be more stable but I’m thinking it’ll also be slower.
also what paddles are you bros using?
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. ATM have a aqua bound fiberglass 130cm paddle, an old Werner fiberglass 130cm paddle and two Werner skagit fiberglass 140cm paddles. Fiberglass is worth the markup over aluminum. I had a tough time trying to justify carbon fiber at $300+ a paddle ($200+ over fiberglass) especially when I haven’t locked down my preferred paddle type and length.
I was looking at the perception tribe 11.5 but after having a tarpon 120 I think it’s worth the extra money… Having the footrest be adjustable is a huge bonus. Another alternative is a native falcon 11. Has adjustable foot rest however it’s 1.5 ft shorter than the tarpon so a little concerned how it’ll track and stability. It’s wider than the tarpon by 1.5 inches so maybe it could be more stable but I’m thinking it’ll also be slower.
also what paddles are you bros using?
Dr.Retarded
. ATM have a aqua bound fiberglass 130cm paddle, an old Werner fiberglass 130cm paddle and two Werner skagit fiberglass 140cm paddles. Fiberglass is worth the markup over aluminum. I had a tough time trying to justify carbon fiber at $300+ a paddle ($200+ over fiberglass) especially when I haven’t locked down my preferred paddle type and length.
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Foler
I just use the stock NuCanoe paddle for my Frontier 12. Don't even remember the size, but it's pretty damn long to clear the 42in beam comfortably. Use a Bending Branches (one of the angler models) for the Kilroy. It's not carbon either, but it's been a good fit for the boat. They're a decent brand, and pretty easy to find.
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Asshat Foler
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Looking for ideas on kayak storage. Currently they are sitting on the dirt ground under my deck outside. Apparently this is bad. They should be either upside down or on their side. Ground also isn’t level. Maybe storing them on their side on foam blocks with them leaning against the decks posts?
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Just hit YouTube. There's tons of DIY solutions people have come up with. If your boats are fairly light you can install brackets along a wall in your garage if you have the space. I built a double tiered cart on casters that I wheel out if the garage when needed. It works fine for me.
I'm sure there's something out there that would fit your situation.
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Vertical storage is the way to go. Takes little floorspace and is easy to build yourself. Like
Dr.Retarded
said, hit up youtube for options.
If you don't have the vertical clearance to do it, this works well even outside.
Dr.Retarded
said, hit up youtube for options.If you don't have the vertical clearance to do it, this works well even outside.
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Yeah, if I could store shit vertically I would, but don't have the ceiling clearance. Plus the NuCanoe is a barge, so too heavy for wall hanging. The carts been nice because I can keep all my kayak and some fishing stuff just in the boats, and even hang extension ladders off the rack to try to maximize space.Vertical storage is the way to go. Takes little floorspace and is easy to build yourself. Like
If you don't have the vertical clearance to do it, this works well even outside.
This looks like a cheap and easy vertical option:
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Goatface
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if going under your deck, would just hang them upside down from the deck joists. i put the straps inside of pool noodles so they hold shape and makes it easier to put the kayak back
sorta like this, but i don't have hoists
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Asshat Foler
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Vertical storage is the way to go. Takes little floorspace and is easy to build yourself. Like
If you don't have the vertical clearance to do it, this works well even outside.
Ya vertical is legit. Wish I had the room for it.
Hah! I actually have this exact setup to try for my deck. Started installing it the other day. Gonna finish it today. I'm skeptical there's enough clearance under the deck to hoist it and make it easy to flip the kayak upside-down and then hoist.
We'll see. Gonna try this and if it doesn't work build my rack.
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Lanx
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having in advertently researched a bit of this, a kayak ceiling hoist looked like a good way to lift a few storage containers into my attic
i have about 40 of the yellow/black (or 30?) 27gallon containers
they are amazingly strong and survived a move really well (my rubbermaid containers practically disintegrated)
i guess i'll make some kind of 2x4 and spread the load between 3 roof rafters
if this works well i'll upgrade to an electric hoist, it's just that the outlet is far and i don't want to run new wires yet
i have about 40 of the yellow/black (or 30?) 27gallon containers
they are amazingly strong and survived a move really well (my rubbermaid containers practically disintegrated)
i guess i'll make some kind of 2x4 and spread the load between 3 roof rafters
if this works well i'll upgrade to an electric hoist, it's just that the outlet is far and i don't want to run new wires yet
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Ended up trying this. Deck is just too close to the ground for it not to be the biggest PITA ever.
ordered that 8 kayak log rack I posted earlier. Gonna just use the bottom 4-6 racks and tarp it. Will hire someone to build cover for it at some point probably.
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Gonna buy a kayak this year for some beginner whitewater stuff. Been white water rafting a bunch. I’m trying to find some adventures on my own without paying commercial whitewater companies for rafting trips.
Anyone, other than Foler, have experience with white water kayaks? I’m 260 lb, big for most kayaks. Looking at a Jackson Gnarvana cause it will accommodate my fatness. Not sure it’s the best kayak for a beginner, but I want something I can grow my skills with.
Any of y’all got experience as a beginner kayaker, or knowledge about whitewater kayaking?
Need help!
Anyone, other than Foler, have experience with white water kayaks? I’m 260 lb, big for most kayaks. Looking at a Jackson Gnarvana cause it will accommodate my fatness. Not sure it’s the best kayak for a beginner, but I want something I can grow my skills with.
Any of y’all got experience as a beginner kayaker, or knowledge about whitewater kayaking?
Need help!
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I don't really have any knowledge of those types of kayaks, but Jackson makes good boats, and I think they have a pretty big variety for that niche of the paddle sport.
It's funny, I was watchin the headwaters kayak YouTube channel earlier, and he was at a trade show and was showcasing some different White water kayaks.
Might want to look up that particular channel because he covers all different types of boats aside from fishing vessels.
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Valorath
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Wound up going with a Dagger Rewind instead of the Jackson Gnarvana. Both are rated for up to 260 lbs, and the Rewind is a half-slice whereas the Gnar is a creek boat. Half-slices are a bit more playful.
I really wanted a half-slice to begin with, and only looked at the Gnarvana because of the paddler weight-range on it. I don't plan to do anything major this year, mostly just learning the strokes and trying to roll my fat ass up after flipping. I do hope to make it to the Nantahala in NC, and will plan on doing the Upper New River in WV for sure, and if I feel comfortable with it maybe trying the Lower New. Will be starting my adventures with Elkhorn Creek in KY - looks to be a pretty chill run with a couple of minor rapids to contend with. A good place to learn, I hope.
I'm pretty excited. Boat should be here in 7-10 days. Need to get my roof-rack situation figured out soon, otherwise I'm gonna be relying on a buddy for transportation. Have a couple pieces of a roof-rack system ordered from Thule, need to see if they work on my car before I order the rest of set up.
I really wanted a half-slice to begin with, and only looked at the Gnarvana because of the paddler weight-range on it. I don't plan to do anything major this year, mostly just learning the strokes and trying to roll my fat ass up after flipping. I do hope to make it to the Nantahala in NC, and will plan on doing the Upper New River in WV for sure, and if I feel comfortable with it maybe trying the Lower New. Will be starting my adventures with Elkhorn Creek in KY - looks to be a pretty chill run with a couple of minor rapids to contend with. A good place to learn, I hope.
I'm pretty excited. Boat should be here in 7-10 days. Need to get my roof-rack situation figured out soon, otherwise I'm gonna be relying on a buddy for transportation. Have a couple pieces of a roof-rack system ordered from Thule, need to see if they work on my car before I order the rest of set up.
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