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Lance Armstrong To Confess?
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Meh, that whole sport is dirty, all sports are. People who wanna be a champion will use every advantage they can. Who gave a fuck about Road Cycling till he started winning? I still don't. Last Olympics a bunch popped dirty, luck of the draw if they catch you, it's a risk they all take. If you think doping isn't everywhere you are kidding yourself.
Also he fucked Cancer his into Cheryl Crow, I give him a thumbs up for that one.
Also he fucked Cancer his into Cheryl Crow, I give him a thumbs up for that one.
Quite a long discussion went on about this subject on FOH before it died. On one hand you had the "Who cares?" crowd like Merkins and others who thought he was a total piece of shit.
I'm firmly in the latter camp, it was never about him being dirty in a sea of dirt. It was his conduct then and until now that makes him a piece of shit. He successfully sued the arse off multiple people, ruined careers and acted like a complete cunt in pursuit of his holier than thou saintly duties compared to all the other rapscallions. Now his world is crashing in on him, he's the one being sued all other the place for his bullshit and who knows, maybe they'll go after him for perjury?
As for the current crowd doing it, I hope not and numbers seem to suggest if they are it's bloody lightweight. Times are down, performance is way down. They did some stats during the last TDF which appeared to show the output during some of the hill climbing stages was showing a 40% dropoff.
If it ever came out that Wiggins, Froome and Cavendish etc were cheats the whole sport of cycling would be destroyed in the UK and as Team Sky is sponsored in part by our Olympic movement I'd like to think they aren't stupid enough to do anything like that.
Anyways, Fuck Armstrong. Anyone who thinks the charity stuff wasn't blatant PR deflection over what he was doing is plain blind. Journo's were repeatedly fed that line over the years that if they went ahead with a story about drugs they'd be killing kids etc along with the usual threats to sue them into the ground. For a long time it worked.
I'm firmly in the latter camp, it was never about him being dirty in a sea of dirt. It was his conduct then and until now that makes him a piece of shit. He successfully sued the arse off multiple people, ruined careers and acted like a complete cunt in pursuit of his holier than thou saintly duties compared to all the other rapscallions. Now his world is crashing in on him, he's the one being sued all other the place for his bullshit and who knows, maybe they'll go after him for perjury?
As for the current crowd doing it, I hope not and numbers seem to suggest if they are it's bloody lightweight. Times are down, performance is way down. They did some stats during the last TDF which appeared to show the output during some of the hill climbing stages was showing a 40% dropoff.
If it ever came out that Wiggins, Froome and Cavendish etc were cheats the whole sport of cycling would be destroyed in the UK and as Team Sky is sponsored in part by our Olympic movement I'd like to think they aren't stupid enough to do anything like that.
Anyways, Fuck Armstrong. Anyone who thinks the charity stuff wasn't blatant PR deflection over what he was doing is plain blind. Journo's were repeatedly fed that line over the years that if they went ahead with a story about drugs they'd be killing kids etc along with the usual threats to sue them into the ground. For a long time it worked.
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They pretty much have. For fuck's sake, this was pointed out to you over at FOH as well:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doping_...2C_1998_-_2012
I doubt you'll pay attention this time, either.
Fuck Armstrong. As Fazana said it wasn't so much the doping as his conduct during that time and right up until this day that is so disgusting. He assassinated the character of anyone who spoke against him, destroyed careers, and repeatedly sued people. He's fucking scum. Nothing will absolve him of his past. And I hope he remains banned from any competitive athletics for the rest of his life to serve as an example to everyone else.
The guy is a massive egomaniac. At this point his best course of action is to just fade into obscurity. There is zero possibility of him restoring any of his reputation. All he'll do by admitting it (and probably coming up with a million excuses along the way) is confirm that everyone was right all along. There's no coming back from what he did.
Yet he just can't leave it alone. His gigantic ego won't let him.
This.
It's really an empty symbolic gesture but I don't blame them for pursuing it. Although some of their tactics over the years have seemed rather draconian.
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Holy fuck. Click on my link. They have pretty much done exactly what Tarrant said they should do. Only the past 3 or so Tours haven't had the majority of the winners banned or stripped of titles.
I wasn't talking about any of the recent races. I'm not a huge cycling fan or anything.
I wasn't referring to drug testing now being an empty symbolic gesture, I was referring to doing it in regards to decades old tests. Those races are long since gone and past to me at least. It might bother fans of the sport more though.
Like the 60's olympics that were all full of steroids use, I don't give a shit that they didn't go back and strip all the medals from people. Whatever, that shits gone and passed.
I'm sure everybody is sick of the drug debate or they have already become polarized and picked their side on the matter.
My opinion, if there existed a performance enhancing drugs without negative side affects that was tested for safety / side affects, I wouldn't be against the idea of such a drug being used.
Whatever armstrong was hopped up on must have been good shit though, he doesn't seem unhealthy. Why aren't we all using that kind of shit if it can make you win a fucking race after getting cancer lol.
Not going to even touch on how such a drug would be approved for human testing or any of the ethics behind it. Shit would be way to lengthy a discussion to have in this thread.
I wasn't referring to drug testing now being an empty symbolic gesture, I was referring to doing it in regards to decades old tests. Those races are long since gone and past to me at least. It might bother fans of the sport more though.
Like the 60's olympics that were all full of steroids use, I don't give a shit that they didn't go back and strip all the medals from people. Whatever, that shits gone and passed.
I'm sure everybody is sick of the drug debate or they have already become polarized and picked their side on the matter.
My opinion, if there existed a performance enhancing drugs without negative side affects that was tested for safety / side affects, I wouldn't be against the idea of such a drug being used.
Whatever armstrong was hopped up on must have been good shit though, he doesn't seem unhealthy. Why aren't we all using that kind of shit if it can make you win a fucking race after getting cancer lol.
Not going to even touch on how such a drug would be approved for human testing or any of the ethics behind it. Shit would be way to lengthy a discussion to have in this thread.
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He wasn't doing anything too fancy. EPO (which wasn't detectable for the first part of his career), testosterone, cortisone, and a whole lot of blood doping. Maybe there were some steroids in there as well, but really for the Tour the biggest thing is increasing the body's ability to supply oxygen to muscles, which as far as I understand it steroids don't really do anything for.
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Emoer, stop being a faggot. It says people tested positive while only like 6 different people were stripped of various titles. You have 30 years of bullshit that still is mostly unanswered for, which is what I said previously. Yeah there have been sanctions or admitted doping, but for the most part, not shit was done about it.
Also, its a fucking bike race, calm your shit.
We need to find an island country somewhere and get them to make all forms of performance enhancing drugs legal. Then set up PPV channel / website where you can watch super human athletes accomplish unimaginable feats of athletic prowess.
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In fear of sponsor dropping their endorsements deals ... solution have the US pharm giants developing the performance drugs and plastering their names on jerseys and stadiums.
"Hi I'm Tiger Woods, and when I can't get it in the hole I take Cialis"
