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Rek looks real fun, definitely picking this one up for my jungle pool.

Trick is playing him nonstop right now on Twitch.

Zac and Jax buffs incoming. Nerf to trailblazer also. I tried to jungle Rammus last night and it is godawful, you get smashed by the jungle and it takes forever.

Gilgamel_sl said:

Zac and Jax buffs incoming. Nerf to trailblazer also. I tried to jungle Rammus last night and it is godawful, you get smashed by the jungle and it takes forever.

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Just like every other tanky jungler! It's annoying, I want my nautilus back.

Nunu is so damn awesome in the new jungle. solo dragon/steal buffs/ward the shit out of the enemy jungle. Never even have to base if you don't want to. I never really played the champ before but I love how easy mode he is.

Sidian_sl said:

Just like every other tanky jungler! It's annoying, I want my nautilus back.

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Not all of them. Zac and Malphite rape the new jungle.

Udyr is still great in the jungle.

Fawe_sl said:

I've dusted off VelKoz this preseason and he's been working wonders.

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FYI, I read a discussion on reddit between a master support and some challenger ADCs. All were agreeing that Velkoz support is a real thing at that elo.

Draegan_sl said:

Udyr is still great in the jungle.

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Relatively speaking, this is untrue.

Every squid I've played against has had just crazy damage.

Entirety of season 4: "Oh wow, a good Zac, I never see those, etc etc" postgame.

Now: "Zac is fucking broken, stupid riot etc etc".

Literally nothing has changed. I have 300 games on him in two seasons and he is exactly the same. Pantheon is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more broken in the new jungle, ie more relative advantages to how he worked in S4, than Zac. I do not understand. He's a good jungler, no better or worse than he was this time a month ago honestly, except now his dragon tanking is way worse(seriously, it kicks his ass). I used to solo it at 5 or 6 all the time, now it's fucking hard.

Gilgamel_sl said:

Entirety of season 4: "Oh wow, a good Zac, I never see those, etc etc" postgame.

Now: "Zac is fucking broken, stupid riot etc etc".

Literally nothing has changed. I have 300 games on him in two seasons and he is exactly the same. Pantheon is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more broken in the new jungle, ie more relative advantages to how he worked in S4, than Zac. I do not understand. He's a good jungler, no better or worse than he was this time a month ago honestly, except now his dragon tanking is way worse(seriously, it kicks his ass). I used to solo it at 5 or 6 all the time, now it's fucking hard.

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Man I have no fucking idea whats OP or not. I let high elo players tell me whats up and assume they know better than I do. People just want an excuse for getting wrecked and exercise selective memory; a [insert "OP" champ here] gets fed and shitpumps the game and its cries of OP... then they forget the three other times some scrub watched Trick2G for a few days and thought they could do all that but really just turn into feedmasta 9000.

Gilgamel_sl said:

Entirety of season 4: "Oh wow, a good Zac, I never see those, etc etc" postgame.

Now: "Zac is fucking broken, stupid riot etc etc".

Literally nothing has changed. I have 300 games on him in two seasons and he is exactly the same. Pantheon is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more broken in the new jungle, ie more relative advantages to how he worked in S4, than Zac. I do not understand. He's a good jungler, no better or worse than he was this time a month ago honestly, except now his dragon tanking is way worse(seriously, it kicks his ass). I used to solo it at 5 or 6 all the time, now it's fucking hard.

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It isn't always a change to the actual hero that changes the heroes relative balance. That is the key term really "relative' balance. Like the changes they made to the jungle have made some heroes like the tanky junglers weaker and the sustain junglers stronger etc.

All the tunnels you can have placed on the map with the new champ is kind of nutty.

Gilg's jungle tier list for 4.20:

Zac, just because. Pantheon because he's dumb as shit at the moment(solo dragon while taking no damage at pretty much any level, L2 ganks, infinite sustain with ranger, etc). Xin and Jax, both pretty good with new devourer on ranger upgrade.

Not listed: Lee Sin(I am bad), Warwick(I'm a hipster warwick, fuck this shit), Nunu(boooring), Rammus(RIP), Elise(too many buttons), Fiddle(too popular).

Also, someone needs to tell me what situations not to pick Nami in when I support. I just randomly pick her and she destroys. Seems so good with no real weaknesses. Sustain, engage, poke, disengage, pick potential, blah blah blah.

Nami is like always Atleast a good pick if not great one.

Just played a co-op as Kalista to try her out and holy shit my arm hurts already. I'm definitely exaggerating the movements because she's new to me but still

Alright bros, it's Black Friday, let's all black out and play league tonight. I'll be on in ~15 minutes doing some arams, will do normals/teambuilder/ranked if anyone else wants to do something.

I'm sure Ravishing will be on, but we always lose when we play together, he's get caught out too much. Lolololol <3 Honestly though, after we lost those 2 games I solo queued up and won the next two. We're just bad luck together.