Man of Steel

Mahes_sl said:

I would have loved if this first movie would have been made into a trilogy. All the Easter eggs they put in concerning Krypton could have been flushed out in the first movie. Things like the moon having been destroyed thus leading to the ban on space flight. This would have explained a "Little" better as to why the citizens did not just leave the planet.

1st Movie : Krypton

They could have gone into all the character development with the council, General Zod and Superman's father. The acts that led to the rebellion, which of course could have been shown in all its glory. They could have even explored the phantom zone a little bit more. Why was the moon destroyed? Who was the really large Kryptonian character and why was he so large? So many small stories that could have been flushed out and explained. This story would have been fantastic and different. The end of the story would of course culminate with the explosion of Krypton and Superman being sent to Earth.

2nd Movie: Superman

This would be the Smallville aspect of the story that would have shown all the adaptations he had to make growing up. Yes this story has been told dozens of times, but with good character development and writing a person could perhaps "Feel" what it would have been like to be a boy that could never reveal the truth. He has to make difficult descisions as to when he reveals what he can do and when he does not. He would grow up and the story could even continue a bit into being an adult who is still unsure of what he is supposed to do. Ending this story could either be when he becomes Superman or when he is first shown the path towards becoming Superman.

3rd movie: General ZoD

He returns, but now you have a much better understanding of what he represents. The strife that Superman goes through destroying his own kind only having just found them could be more profound. In the movie I was actually on General Zod's side when he was on Krypton. What General Zod said to the council on Krypton made sense, which kind of flustered me a bit since he was supposed to be the villain. This is why the story really needed to be flushed out a bit more.

This is a brief summation of how I wish the story could have been told.

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if you think nerds are raging now, imagine them having to wait till 3rd movie for the final fight

it would make star wars episodes 1-3 seem like the LOTR trilogy

Finally saw it with the wife. Was ok, good even, but not great. Special effects were top notch and there was a shit ton of action. The bit characters and Zod were acted very well, despite having very little to work with. Cavil and Adams were extremely forgettable in this movie, however. As others have stated, Crowe and Costner probably gave the strongest performances. Worth the money to see on the big screen and the 3d was well done without being overdone. People in this thread have gone over a lot of the flaws, but I wanted to touch on a couple of other things that stood out to me after I had a night to reflect on it.

First, say what you want about Returns, that movie felt more like Superman. Routh was a really good Kansas Plowboy kind of guy and came across with the morality very well. Cavil was clearly there to model, not act. I felt like if they had changed names and dialog, this would have passed for a great DBZ Saiyan Saga movie, because it just did not have any sort of Superman feel to it, movie or comic. Them making him an emo supes did not help. The Returns Superman was a guy you would want to root for and aspire to be. The Cavil Superman is an underwear model who's earth father encourages him to let people die to cover his own ass and seems to only save people if they happen to be nearby or are named Lois. I think if you could take half of the plot and acting of Returns and half the action and effects of Man of Steel, you would have the perfect Superman movie, but unfortunately both efforts failed at opposite ends of the spectrum.

Second, there is a major problem with any story where if the protagonist does absolutely nothing, then the problems are still solved (see IJ:Crystal Skull) despite his inaction. In this movie, the problems are actually initiated by Supes when he goes digging into his history. So from a stupid human perspective, this is one uber alien asshole calling down a bunch of other alien assholes and wrecking shit while they fight over political bullshit with zero relavence to the us. Not exactly a great motivation to root for the guy and I can't imagine he is going to be super popular after they fucked up a huge chunk of Kansas and India, especially since Superman apparently thinks its hilarious to crash multimillion dollar drones for the Lulz. If humanity had caused Zod's arrival, then he would have come off a lot more heroic. Instead, with that story, he is just some asshole cleaning up a mess he made himself, by being careless. I can ignore the logical flaws of the plot, stupidity of the villians, and bad science, because it is a comic book. I cannot ignore a failure to make Superman heroic. A Darth Vader "Nooooo!" yell after doing something that he has never done before is not the way to convey that.

On the plus side, the battle carnage was appropriate and well done for what they were presenting, though a more visible human element of the damage would have done a little more to draw me in. The female Kryptonian more or less stole the show in every scene she was in. Zod was descent with what they gave him, but I think they should have had some nod to the kneel before Zod thing, especially since they brought back versions of Zods main lackies in the Donner film. It avoided being campy (huge mistake of Returns) and had a much more sympathetic villian. It also had a really good delving into Kryptonian history, which was my favorite aspect of the movie. The flashback sequences were also a really good way to handle origin story without making us sit through an hour of farmboy bullshit again.

I may be being too negative, and watching Avengers right after this was probably a bad idea, but it highlighted the lack of fun in this movie. Whoever said this was actually a disaster movie hit the nail on the head. It had that sort of feel to it, not really a superhero movie. If I had to rank this one after one viewing, I would put it on par with Thor, perhaps slightly better. Its a good movie to see (I, for the record enjoyed both Returns and this one fairly equally but for opposite reasons), but not a great movie of the genre. As Snyder movies go, its better than Sucker Punch, but not better than Watchmen.

Does not alter the fact that supes essentially commited genocide. In fact his list of criminal offenses in the film is pretty impressive. Theft of numerous items, infiltrating a military outpost, vandalism of a guys truck, the negligent homicide of his earth dad, numerous acts of destruction of federal property like the drone, and the already mentioned genocide. Zod might have been the vilian but Superman was a lot more successful at breaking the law.

Again, liked the movie but it could have been so much better. Half ithe Bag guys had it right when they said this was an alien invasion movie not a superhero movie.