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Bald Brah said:
Disney might have enough money to keep it up for a while, but local theaters won't when no one turns up to see these shitty movies. Eventually theaters might just stop buying their crap.
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And ya know, Disney has a lot of that 160 billion tied up in assets and those assets diminish in value based off lack of interest in them. They don't have billions in cash on hand. They have something like 30 billion dollars of debt, but because of those lucrative assets, they can borrow money from banks for an indefinite amount of years. The thing is when those assets cease to make a profit, then the banks start to get very tight with their money. Disney is on a collision course with that reality. Then what do t when they run out of cash on hand? They start to sell off those assets and things get bleaker as years go by and they sell more and more til they no longer have much of anything left. 160 billion can disappear very quickly.

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They have 40 billion in debt.
 
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Chukzombi said:
And ya know, Disney has a lot of that 160 billion tied up in assets and those assets diminish in value based off lack of interest in them. They don't have billions in cash on hand. They have something like 30 billion dollars of debt, but because of those lucrative assets, they can borrow money from banks for an indefinite amount of years. The thing is when those assets cease to make a profit, then the banks start to get very tight with their money. Disney is on a collision course with that reality. Then what do t when they run out of cash on hand? They start to sell off those assets and things get bleaker as years go by and they sell more and more til they no longer have much of anything left. 160 billion can disappear very quickly.

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They have 40 billion in debt.
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Not only that, Disney is a publicly traded company and the stock holders DEMAND a profit. You can't keep pumping out 200 million dollar flops before the stock holders start a revolt.
 
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Not only that, Disney is a publicly traded company and the stock holders DEMAND a profit. You can't keep pumping out 200 million dollar flops before the stock holders start a revolt.
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Yes, that's what this Nelson Peltz coup was about. The stockholders are starting to revolt now. Peltz has 2 billion in Disney. He commands a lot of sway. He tried to get Iger out of there and I think Iger called in a lot of solids to keep his job, but after this year and all the future flops to come, he might not get away with it next time. You can see he's trying to pull back on some of the woke, but it's not nearly enough. He thinks he's got people in his pocket, but that's about to change. This year has to be a big hit for Disney. Nothing seems to suggest that it will.
 
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Gavinmad said:
Yeah the previous 3 times he said Disney would cut back on the faggotry and then didn't don't matter because he said it a 4 time and thats what counts!
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Have you seen The Marvels? That's a girlboss movie, but it's not nearly as woke as something like Thor 4. And Thor 4 they started cutting back the woke from other post 2020 Marvel bombs. It's getting pulled back. Very slowly as if as much resistance is being put up to prevent it. But it's happening. In The Marvels, Capn Cuntface was to have a more romantic relationship with Valkyrie, but they cut that part out. The whole movie looks like it was missing lots of scenes due to them trying to hamper the woke garbage Nia Dacosta tried to put in. that movie was delayed like 4 times due to the many reshoots and editing.
 
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someday the adults will be back in charge. of course it will most likely be too late at that point, but they cant sustain this failure after failure business model for much longer. something gotta give. maybe when the parks completely alienate everyone including the "whales" and then a big fucking crash will hit Disney right in the jimmy.
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The adults are in charge, their aims just don't align with ours.

There are two things going on at Disney:

1) Stakeholder Capitalism. Everything is about churning out loads of content, cutting costs and increasing prices to hit a quarterly earnings increase. Long term the company goes to shit but that's OK because you use the money to invest in the next thing you'll mine the value out of. This is a pervasive disease in buisness and politics at the moment.

2) Corporate Activism. Batshit insane people and ideas are funded and promoted to create plausible deniability for the above. Movie was shit? Audience is racist, give us more money to reach the kids and end fascism. Park attendence is low? It's those Covid rules we totally didn't lobby for to put everyone else out of buisness.

Sociopaths always corrupt society over long periods of time, sometimes reform comes from within, sometimes external events force change and sometimes you need a guillotine.
 
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The adults are in charge, their aims just don't align with ours.

There are two things going on at Disney:

1) Stakeholder Capitalism. Everything is about churning out loads of content, cutting costs and increasing prices to hit a quarterly earnings increase. Long term the company goes to shit but that's OK because you use the money to invest in the next thing you'll mine the value out of. This is a pervasive disease in buisness and politics at the moment.

2) Corporate Activism. Batshit insane people and ideas are funded and promoted to create plausible deniability for the above. Movie was shit? Audience is racist, give us more money to reach the kids and end fascism. Park attendence is low? It's those Covid rules we totally didn't lobby for to put everyone else out of buisness.

Sociopaths always corrupt society over long periods of time, sometimes reform comes from within, sometimes external events force change and sometimes you need a guillotine.
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these arent mature or rational people. thats insanity to the extreme. there should only be one business model. keep the customers happy while making money. the customers are less happy now so they are making less money. people dont like being ripped off and feeling uncomfortable. especially when they're on vacation.
 
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Chukzombi said:
these arent mature or rational people. thats insanity to the extreme. there should only be one business model. keep the customers happy while making money. the customers are less happy now so they are making less money. people dont like being ripped off and feeling uncomfortable. especially when they're on vacation.
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That's the old model of capitalism, that's not how it works now.

Now it's about getting the most money this quarter to get your bonus shares, keeping things running until you can sell the shares, then reinvesting it in something you are not ruining.

It's naive to think that the people in charge of the largest corporations in the world such as Disney are irrational children. They know exactly what they are doing.
 
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Chukzombi said:
Peltz has 2 billion in Disney. He commands a lot of sway.
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Chukzombi said:
Yes, that's what this Nelson Peltz coup was about. The stockholders are starting to revolt now. Peltz has 2 billion in Disney. He commands a lot of sway. He tried to get Iger out of there and I think Iger called in a lot of solids to keep his job, but after this year and all the future flops to come, he might not get away with it next time. You can see he's trying to pull back on some of the woke, but it's not nearly enough. He thinks he's got people in his pocket, but that's about to change. This year has to be a big hit for Disney. Nothing seems to suggest that it will.
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peltz sold all his disney stock after losing the proxy battle. he had like 1% of shares anyways, mutual funds own like 20% between just 3 companies

 
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Captain Marvel Brie Larson Shares New Superhero Actor Advice​

Captain Marvel star Brie Larson shared some of her advice for new superhero actors. The Hollywood Reporter's drama actress roundtable featured the Marvel star and she got asked about her MCU experience. When asked about being a "superhero mentor" she singled out training and costume bathroom logistics as two popular pieces of advice for actors entering the superhero world. Funnily enough, Larson's one of the first people to reach out when newcomers are looking for advice. She's been in the MCU for a minute now, and people are surprised by the amount of training they have to do to get "superhero fit." Along with that, you're going to need a bathroom plan, so go ahead and start thinking about that from the moment you get into the suit.

"Always. I'm the first person to email everybody because it's very specific and very strange," Larson began. "People are like, 'I don't know how to do this.' Yeah, no one does. Why would you? I'll say, 'Train, because you'll want to be as prepared in your body as you possibly can because it only gets harder as the job goes on. And really understand how to be able to go to the bathroom in your suit.' The first Captain Marvel, it was a 45-minute thing to get me in and out of that costume."

Entertainment Tonight previously spoke to the Carol Danvers actress about her journey through the MCU. In essence, there's still more for Captain Marvel to do, but fans have already seen a lot of growth from the character since her early moments in the franchise.

"I think there is still so much inside of Carol," Larson reflected. "I feel like getting to be on this team just cracked her open in a way that she hadn't been and I really loved that for her."


"I just loved her letting the shoulders drop a little bit, and not need to feel like all the responsibility was on her," Larson added. "So I think that there is just so much more to go... She is just a great character to continue to grow with. It's like, as I am growing she is growing."
 
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he is allegedly going to be Henry Gyrich in Captain America 4 as the leader of SWORD, appearing later in the white Vision TV show before coming into the (unwritten) X-Men movie as the same named character who I think has to do with the sentinel program, right

i thought the x-men movie was gonna be in the 60s but no, thats fantastic 4. x-men has to be in a different universe though (before or after secret wars) so thats kinda weird too
 
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