Monsters and Memories (Project_N) - Old School Indie MMO

Pasteton

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Oops when I say guild leader I mean in beta which is more hoku, Sloan isn’t really playing the beta from what I can tell. Also I don’t think he’s as paranoid now as info is already all out there (which I’ve told him was of course going to happen regardless)
 

Kithani

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Secret discords where grown men horde level 30 mob drop information instead of posting it to the wiki to get a leg up on their “competition” is definitely the classic 1999 experience I remember
 
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Noodleface

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Rofl it's ok I don't need a guild. Was just going to join the forum one if there was one .keep your secrets
 
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Daidraco

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Oops when I say guild leader I mean in beta which is more hoku, Sloan isn’t really playing the beta from what I can tell. Also I don’t think he’s as paranoid now as info is already all out there (which I’ve told him was of course going to happen regardless)
Had no idea that some members had access and others didnt. But I agree with Sloan in that the information should be restricted to core/trusted members. They put in a lot of work to collect and document all of that information and its a valid reward for those that have that information to be ahead of the pack. Any opinion alluding to it being petty is disingenuous at best. It'll all come out, definitely - but having that edge at release is what it was all about in the first place if I had to formulate an opinion.

Personally, I think the information that people have kept insanely close to their chest in this game is the leveling path. Yea. You can level off just about anything. But experience per hour / kill rate - at some camps is just wildly out of sync with other camps. TTK on one mob at one location may be 30 seconds, but with the same exact group on the same level mob will only take half that time at another camp. Never mind any secondary or tertiary concern like availability, coin drops, etc.

But Im probably preaching to the choir if you're in Hoku's circle. I havent put near as much effort into MNM as I have other shit. Barsh, Arbaal and I put a colossal amount of hours into Ashes of Creation cornering the market, and of course, that was a colossal waste of fucking time, too. When this goes into EA - I'll see you more since I wont be concerned about a wipe anymore. Also, Sloans been playing lately but I dont think hes put any logs on the fire either since we lose these characters, again, in what.. a couple weeks?
 

Siliconemelons

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A forum bro guild should be a place for the leet and the dads with a few hours a week.

And yes I get that the one you mentioned is “not” the forum bro guild- so I guess the answer is- we dont have one.

That guild with the secret info sounds exhausting - does having a “slow leveling” player on the books really drag the guild down? If they are not part of you A team thats out there in the holy war against the npcs of this age.
 

Sloan

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There were a few people who got ratted out to us in alpha and the first beta by the guilds that they were giving info to. This is a competitive open world PVE MMO so keeping some info quiet is going to be a thing, however 90% of the info we have we post publicly to the wiki etc. Its moreso about raid content / plans than named camps and item drops - however there are alot of secrets in this game like certain mobs spawning in certain moon cycles, etc., that there is just no reason to want to share with everyone. The people who spend the time documenting all this over weeks and weeks put in real time and effort to do so.

And it is also about having a leg up on launch. Many of us enjoy the launch race to lvl and be the first to down content, etc. Have always helped other guilds with strats for raid mobs when they ask - it would be boring to just farm raid content without other people competing. That rush of knowing there are other guilds waiting to take the kills or that you have limited time to get things done makes the game more fun.
 
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Sloan

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I havent put near as much effort into MNM as I have other shit. Barsh, Arbaal and I put a colossal amount of hours into Ashes of Creation cornering the market, and of course, that was a colossal waste of fucking time, too.
Was it though lol. Ashes was so good I dont regret the time I put into it.

Honestly, part of me is glad it went under because I was neglecting way too much RL stuff being hopelessly addicted to it.