Monsters and Memories (Project_N) - Old School Indie MMO

Pasteton

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Oops when I say guild leader I mean in beta which is more hoku, Sloan isn’t really playing the beta from what I can tell. Also I don’t think he’s as paranoid now as info is already all out there (which I’ve told him was of course going to happen regardless)
 

Kithani

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Secret discords where grown men horde level 30 mob drop information instead of posting it to the wiki to get a leg up on their “competition” is definitely the classic 1999 experience I remember
 
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Daidraco

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Oops when I say guild leader I mean in beta which is more hoku, Sloan isn’t really playing the beta from what I can tell. Also I don’t think he’s as paranoid now as info is already all out there (which I’ve told him was of course going to happen regardless)
Had no idea that some members had access and others didnt. But I agree with Sloan in that the information should be restricted to core/trusted members. They put in a lot of work to collect and document all of that information and its a valid reward for those that have that information to be ahead of the pack. Any opinion alluding to it being petty is disingenuous at best. It'll all come out, definitely - but having that edge at release is what it was all about in the first place if I had to formulate an opinion.

Personally, I think the information that people have kept insanely close to their chest in this game is the leveling path. Yea. You can level off just about anything. But experience per hour / kill rate - at some camps is just wildly out of sync with other camps. TTK on one mob at one location may be 30 seconds, but with the same exact group on the same level mob will only take half that time at another camp. Never mind any secondary or tertiary concern like availability, coin drops, etc.

But Im probably preaching to the choir if you're in Hoku's circle. I havent put near as much effort into MNM as I have other shit. Barsh, Arbaal and I put a colossal amount of hours into Ashes of Creation cornering the market, and of course, that was a colossal waste of fucking time, too. When this goes into EA - I'll see you more since I wont be concerned about a wipe anymore. Also, Sloans been playing lately but I dont think hes put any logs on the fire either since we lose these characters, again, in what.. a couple weeks?
 

Siliconemelons

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A forum bro guild should be a place for the leet and the dads with a few hours a week.

And yes I get that the one you mentioned is “not” the forum bro guild- so I guess the answer is- we dont have one.

That guild with the secret info sounds exhausting - does having a “slow leveling” player on the books really drag the guild down? If they are not part of you A team thats out there in the holy war against the npcs of this age.
 

Sloan

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There were a few people who got ratted out to us in alpha and the first beta by the guilds that they were giving info to. This is a competitive open world PVE MMO so keeping some info quiet is going to be a thing, however 90% of the info we have we post publicly to the wiki etc. Its moreso about raid content / plans than named camps and item drops - however there are alot of secrets in this game like certain mobs spawning in certain moon cycles, etc., that there is just no reason to want to share with everyone. The people who spend the time documenting all this over weeks and weeks put in real time and effort to do so.

And it is also about having a leg up on launch. Many of us enjoy the launch race to lvl and be the first to down content, etc. Have always helped other guilds with strats for raid mobs when they ask - it would be boring to just farm raid content without other people competing. That rush of knowing there are other guilds waiting to take the kills or that you have limited time to get things done makes the game more fun.
 
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Sloan

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I havent put near as much effort into MNM as I have other shit. Barsh, Arbaal and I put a colossal amount of hours into Ashes of Creation cornering the market, and of course, that was a colossal waste of fucking time, too.
Was it though lol. Ashes was so good I dont regret the time I put into it.

Honestly, part of me is glad it went under because I was neglecting way too much RL stuff being hopelessly addicted to it.
 
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GuardianX

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This is a competitive open world PVE MMO so keeping some info quiet is going to be a thing, however 90% of the info we have we post publicly to the wiki etc.

Yeah, I wonder how many people have been paying attention to the who of wiki updates.
 

Siliconemelons

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Guilds can keep their info if they want, good for them.

I was just saying, I would love to just join a guild with the bros- and jumping through the hoops of yester-year EQ guilds sounds very tiring - then somehow proving I ain’t no snitch so I can look up where the level 20 quest mob drops my grub infested ray butt.
 
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Guilds can keep their info if they want, good for them.

I was just saying, I would love to just join a guild with the bros- and jumping through the hoops of yester-year EQ guilds sounds very tiring - then somehow proving I ain’t no snitch so I can look up where the level 20 quest mob drops my grub infested ray butt.

Don't join a guild based on wiki entries for items.


Link is to Zekparser, but this scene in Waiting is hilarious.
 
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Sloan

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Guilds can keep their info if they want, good for them.

I was just saying, I would love to just join a guild with the bros- and jumping through the hoops of yester-year EQ guilds sounds very tiring - then somehow proving I ain’t no snitch so I can look up where the level 20 quest mob drops my grub infested ray butt.
The hoops to jump through currently are do you have a pulse, do you like the game, and are you not retarded. Even the later there is plenty of leeway. May change on live.
 
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Noodleface

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The hoops to jump through currently are do you have a pulse, do you like the game, and are you not retarded. Even the later there is plenty of leeway. May change on live.
Careful brother I used to lead a raiding guild with a bunch of these retards in it.
 
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GuardianX

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Don't join a guild based on wiki entries for items.

For real though the amount of people submitting anon info has been kinda intense. Gunna need a bot or something.

For the zek parser...you go ahead and run that shit, you really wanna trust tyen with a screen-reader style parser?

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The wiki for the game is pitiful in comparison and if you examine the pictures of loot on the wiki - they are often the same picture from Rampage's Discord.

Daidraco Daidraco I'm interested though, what info would you say is missing on the wiki? not details, don't gotta share but like, "specific" generic info?

like "How do you spawn the new BC"? or like "What is all the shit for in FW"?
 
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Siliconemelons

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The hoops to jump through currently are do you have a pulse, do you like the game, and are you not retarded. Even the later there is plenty of leeway. May change on live.

Careful brother I used to lead a raiding guild with a bunch of these retards in it.

My retarded level 15 self is ready, mostly I seek community where I can say American Inventor
 
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Hekotat

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No particular forum guild and I wouldnt dive into anything long term until you're set on the rule set for live (if you care about that). But you have Rampage, which is S Sloan 's guild. Its not the forum guild, but you have a good handful of us in there. Kriddle, if you have seen his stream is the recruiter for the guild. The Rampage Discord is almost fully encompassing/extensive with maps, rares, their loot and more. The wiki for the game is pitiful in comparison and if you examine the pictures of loot on the wiki - they are often the same picture from Rampage's Discord.

Thanks for train targets. You motherfuckers on watch!
 

Hekotat

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I have no plans to be competitive so doesn't matter to me. Was just looking to hang out with the bros

If you see me in game on EA I'll gladly group with some people. However, first come/first serve. Sad bard won't be in by EA (likely).