Monsters and Memories (Project_N) - Old School Indie MMO
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No problem from me at all, i encourage devs to rip off autists of their twinkie budgets. I mean with SNAP on hold right now it would be a bad time to launch the EA but once the gimmedats start flowing again i'm sure they'll milk that whole disability check away from them.
You would think that the retards getting scammed would be upset about it but apparently you aren't, good on you I suppose.
However I must point out that it is very much like star citizen, it's actually far more insidious if we are being honest. Star Citizen is a scam selling thousand dollar imaginary spaceships to people for a future game that will never launch, its all just hopium ripping off wealthy whales for many thousands of dollars, sporadically paid over years.
This is a game that requires boxing to progress so its not 1 lunch a month its 6-50 lunches per month, depending on how many accounts your disability rating can afford to pay for. It's less money per purchase than 1k spaceships but its a recurring charge every single month. it's like the state lottery ripping off dumb poor people of all of their expendable income, and over time its just as expensive as 1k fake spaceships but, like on a layaway plan for the poors.
if that were the end of it then fine, but since they are milking those disability checks to pay for ultimately a massive rug pull then yeah, its a scam. you should be mad.
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That’s a perfectly reasonable fear that has solid evidence backing up all of the points. You could be right, very keen eye catching all of that, and before they even charge anyone any money. Have you shared this with Coffeezilla? Was the original EverQuest a scam too? I mean it’s not any different, are we all getting scammed by these games? Woah
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Daidraco
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I was thinking the same thing?... I havent paid shit and Ive already gotten quite a few hours out of the game from this test alone.
Almost to 9 on that Bard I was playing with you on the other night. So "soon." I like it more than the Necromancer, even the Necromancer has a hell of a lot less "jhank" than the Bard does. MnM Bards remind me more of a DAoC Minstrel though, more so than an EverQuest Bard.
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I'd say the only thing that has really aggravated me during my playtime has been the fact that people 4-5+ levels higher than the content, are killing NPC's in mass. Effectively stripping away any option that a normal group of friends would have to exp at. Sure, instancing would "fix" this and I think thats why most people walk away from this game wanting instancing - but a more general fix without instancing, and without neutering the level variance in grouping - would just be to increase the damage output of NPCs, Increase the healing done by players, increase the healing spells mana cost, and increase the exp amount to make up for the slower kill speed.
Also, for the love of fucking all things good - Make it so the Campfire buff acts like a Bard Song. Where it refreshes constantly and has a "fade" time of 20-25 seconds. As it sits right now, pullers are getting the shit end of the stick. When the groups killing the last mob, the puller is supposed to already be out looking for the next. But instead, they have to wait until everything is dead before even thinking about leaving.
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I agree on increasing damage output. Player power isn’t balanced right now and it’s far too easy to kill green mobs, so anyone can solo the wyrmbane at like level 12. That may be a low level issue only though.
It could also just be a lack of dungeons. They have a lot of content for their team size but in terms of dungeon options it’s lower than classic I think.
Del
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There are some mini dungeons that most people don't know about and apparently some that nobody knows about. They're also adding in Fallen Watch and possibly an underwater dungeon in Scarwood at EA launch and then Rothold when module 1 releases.
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Del
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Campfire has always lasted for 20 minutes when you become fully rested. There's no need to constantly stay near it. They have a UI element showing this now so you can see how long the buff is on you.
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Hekotat
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I actually ran into this several times tonight, one guy power leveling toons and just wiping entire camps leaving us with nothing.
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Hekotat
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Also note that the camp fire does not give the rested buff if it is raining and you are not "sheltered". I did some testing and found that some cliff faces will block the rain if they have an angle on them. Just look for the sheltered status and drop your fire. Cool that was thought of.
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Yep lol, ran into that too. It's a 10 day playtest, why the fuck are they powerleveling people? I think it's going to be just like quarm/p99 after a few months where any sub-20 zone is just 1-2 guys PLing their guildmate's 15th alt in low level zones and I imagine any actual lowbie who has that experience is going to tell them to cram the $15 subscription fee up their ass.
I think quarm was my last ride with these style of games. It just doesn't do it for me anymore except as casual free-to-play second screen content. I got a wood elf druid to level 10 and it just seemed like the usual 1-3 newbie yard, 4-10 kill a few hundred orcs/skeletons kind of experience and I guess I got tired of it over the years.
I heard night harbor was better developed, but half of the elf city zone was completely empty space, and the remaining places were conveniently arranged exp-camp spots where people just chain pulled orcs/undead/shrooms for hours.
I think if it continues on track it'll probably be what people want out of it. I just am not convinced very many people are going to be willing to shell out $15/month for this type of experience anymore. The druid spell list was basically 1:1 to an everquest druid, so it's more everquest for people who want everquest in 2025 -as advertised- I suppose. Hope it recaptures the magic for the people who have been waiting for something like it.
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Yeah I don't have problems leveling alts, because Im not a newb who only knows the singular leveling path every other flat brain thinks is the entire game. P99 was the worst of it.
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Daidraco
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I dont wholeheartedly believe that these guys are trying to mimic EverQuest 100%. Especially when we're talking about the degenerate nature of what is in EverQuest in the past, present or future. So its valuable, even here because at least one of the dev's has commented here, to talk about, comment and complain about what current system is not player friendly, and more importantly - a suggestion on how to fix it. Especially a suggestion that doesnt devolve into "change the entire design philosophy of the game" like instancing. We can also assume that theyre more open to changing a system that still needs to have development time assigned to it.
A suggestion here, from old, bitter, players that have decades of MMO experience ... might just.. be worth more than the suggestions the devs are getting from their forum or discord. I checked out the Discord to try to find some information on if and why the instrument bonuses for bards arent working. While there, just.. some of the "ideas" that get upvotes are complete idiocy incarnate.
A suggestion here, from old, bitter, players that have decades of MMO experience ... might just.. be worth more than the suggestions the devs are getting from their forum or discord. I checked out the Discord to try to find some information on if and why the instrument bonuses for bards arent working. While there, just.. some of the "ideas" that get upvotes are complete idiocy incarnate.
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I liked that Eastern Wastes was borderline inaccessible to the masses because just getting there sucked ass.
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Daidraco
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Eastern Wastes? Or Western Wastes? Think you got the two backwards, personally. If you're talking about Western Wastes, I liked the inaccessibility of it, but only to the extent of myself and close friends. Getting the whole gaggle fuck of your guild there (back then) was fucking awful though. Never mind the absolute fucking idiots that would die to Sontalak. Looking back on it, I was 11 years old and I rarely ever had a problem getting through Sirens Grotto, or Skyshrine. So how fucking retarded did people have to be for an 11 year old to navigate better than them?
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Being one of the first people, at least on the server, to see WW is still a core gaming memory (even if I wasn't a raider and never saw NToV during Velious). A sneaky druid with egress could bypass a lot of the roadblocks, so was able to access every outdoor zone before even starting the xpac leveling grind (if I am remembering right).
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rofl, pick a lane bro.
it's either a hobby project to recreate everquest with all the 'tism and degeneracy that we've come to expect when you abandon all viable solutions to solved problems in exchange for feefees and nostalgia. it's going to have a microscopic player base of mostly boxers which is apparently what they want since they are intentionally avoiding a wide release on steam.
or its not trying to mimic everquest 100%, it's going to be a huge rug pull/bait and switch and will implement tons of things contrary to the current implementation, that's why they are waiting on the steam release they need to milk you retards for a while to hire people to finish the game, then they'll add instances and modern mechanics and do a real release to actually attract a playerbase and make money.
I've been saying its the first option for a while, but you guys can't accept that means a tiny population and keep coming up for excuses on why no steam, in which all roads eventually leads to a massive bait and switch.
The mental gymnastics on display in this thread is hilarious