Monsters and Memories (Project_N) - Old School Indie MMO

Valorath

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Have you played the game? Even with infra vision and the gamma slider, there are still areas that are dark. In dungeons I kept mage-light on my wizard at all times, once I could afford the reagents.
 

Quaid

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Ogre stats are fine
Ogre faction is fine

Stun immunity which literally cannot be replicated by any in game item, spell, etc. is retarded

This is not complicated

Frontal stun immunity locked behind race choice was too far. As was Dwarf fear ward in WOW.
 
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Sythrak

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I like how so many posts have said the lack of light is a major feature of the game, and then every single one says "yeah, I'm picking a race that negates that." Almost like they don't actually want that shit.
Can't you just gamma exploit anyway?

Edit: guess you can't someone above said its still dark.
 

bolok

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Can't you just gamma exploit anyway?

Edit: guess you can't someone above said its still dark.
Full blast gamma is still fairly hax. It's on a list of things to adjust further down the line (again) But they'll probably wait until ultravision is available for testing again to clamp the visibility ranges without lightsources. Gonna be awhile.

Shit looks pretty bad with blown out gamma. I nudge it up a point or 2 depending on how much daylight is fucking with my monitor. But setting it at 100 feels like cheating and looks terrible, so I suffer well when I'm playing a human.
 

Grim1

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Ugg, it's been a really long time. But couldn't you farm wisps or something for a light source at low level in EQ?
 
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I like how so many posts have said the lack of light is a major feature of the game, and then every single one says "yeah, I'm picking a race that negates that." Almost like they don't actually want that shit.
Everyone here is a poopsocker yes. But most people don't pick races to minmax. Poopsockers all do though.

Wood Elf was one of the most popular races forever. Because they were cute. Similarly in WOW even assuming a faction balance how much of Horde were Blood Elves? How much of the Alliance was Human or Night Elf? Especially when selecting female characters.

Handwringing about OP ogres is just stupid anyway. Even in EQ where Ogres were objectively the best warrior race due to high starting stamina and stun immunity what race was the FOH original tank again? Oh right, a human. My guild had a halfling warrior tank for years. The advantages weren't end all be all and you're all delusional if you think that.
 
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Kithani

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Everyone here is a poopsocker yes. But most people don't pick races to minmax. Poopsockers all do though.

Wood Elf was one of the most popular races forever. Because they were cute. Similarly in WOW even assuming a faction balance how much of Horde were Blood Elves? How much of the Alliance was Human or Night Elf? Especially when selecting female characters.

Handwringing about OP ogres is just stupid anyway. Even in EQ where Ogres were objectively the best warrior race due to high starting stamina and stun immunity what race was the FOH original tank again? Oh right, a human. My guild had a halfling warrior tank for years. The advantages weren't end all be all and you're all delusional if you think that.
wtf does any of that have to do with light vision
 
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yerm

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So, if I havent looked at the game AT ALL yet... what are the best or meta classes for each role, and which race(s) is the biggest pimp?
 
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Hekotat

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what are the best or meta classes?

Sassy Office Space GIF by 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment
 
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Valorath

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Some neat stuff in Nick's stream today. He showed combining 10 pieces of a treasure map and then going out and interacting with the spot. It spawned a red dragon.

I was playing league so only half listening when he was talking about 2h vs sword and board for tanks. It sounded like they don't want to make shields too good so that it is always preferable to wear one. Not sure how I feel on that one.

Apparently, testers seem to think bard charm is too strong. Our bard never really charmed anything, so my only experience with charm was on enchanter. It definitely felt strong, but the random charm breaks while trying to CC pulls could cause serious chaos. My brother wound up babysitting my charmed pet on his rogue to help stun it when it broke, which made a huge difference.

Some folks were also talking about a shield that looks really cool. Nick said it comes from one of the "hardest raid targets." Someone else mentioned it looked really cool, but that it was just for in town because no point wearing a shield currently. Anyone know what that shield might be? My brother got a cool one on his cleric from the crusader lady at the bottom of Wyrmsbane.
 

Tuco

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How good is multiboxing in MnM?

Specifically how much group synergy, combat movement and challenging PvE content is there?

EQ is so conducive to boxing because classes synergize, especially in later levels, and there's not a bunch of goofy mechanics to deal with.
 

Hekotat

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Some neat stuff in Nick's stream today. He showed combining 10 pieces of a treasure map and then going out and interacting with the spot. It spawned a red dragon.

I was playing league so only half listening when he was talking about 2h vs sword and board for tanks. It sounded like they don't want to make shields too good so that it is always preferable to wear one. Not sure how I feel on that one.

Apparently, testers seem to think bard charm is too strong. Our bard never really charmed anything, so my only experience with charm was on enchanter. It definitely felt strong, but the random charm breaks while trying to CC pulls could cause serious chaos. My brother wound up babysitting my charmed pet on his rogue to help stun it when it broke, which made a huge difference.

Some folks were also talking about a shield that looks really cool. Nick said it comes from one of the "hardest raid targets." Someone else mentioned it looked really cool, but that it was just for in town because no point wearing a shield currently. Anyone know what that shield might be? My brother got a cool one on his cleric from the crusader lady at the bottom of Wyrmsbane.

What, charm breaks on Bard 10x the number of times it does on my enchanter. Maybe it gets better at higher levels but I was having hell using it in Ancient Crypt the other day, maybe mobs have a resist in there or something.

Enchanter I felt comfortable having a charmed pet to the point I wasn't constantly alert. With the Bard I'm on the edge of my seat and afraid to alt tab to respond to a message. I wonder if they meant in terms of mana cost? I'll have to watch the stream later.
 

Burns

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How good is multiboxing in MnM?

Specifically how much group synergy, combat movement and challenging PvE content is there?

EQ is so conducive to boxing because classes synergize, especially in later levels, and there's not a bunch of goofy mechanics to deal with.
It's really close to EQ but with classes getting rank 1 spells/abilities at lower levels. By PoP each class got a few more abilities/spells, right? So probably around PoP EQ in terms of how classes play.

I two boxed a few different sets of classes but all stayed under level 25: SK/Shm, Mag/Dru, and Rog/Clr. Melee classes had 2 or 3 "active" abilities (10 second cooldowns, maybe?) and just healing them up plus buffs every so often would keep the caster meditating, which made it so it was mostly just healing on the second box.
 
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GuardianX

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How good is multiboxing in MnM?

Very good, very easy, you'll be bored here I think since you like 12+ box don't you?

You'll be your own raid force here, world bosses are really 2-3 group encounters at best and are level locked. If you have a team at every level for locked encounters a person that had been boxing for years would have 0 issue boxing here.

Classes are easier IMO than EQ, they are less complex, more "rewarding".

You roll a Inq, Bard / Chanter, Cleric, Shaman, Archer (I think this is still silly OP?) and flex with another melee or DPS and you would be able to handle likely every camp in the game atm. Some mroe "Challenging" than others due to the same issues EQ has with pathing and what not.
 
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bolok

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What, charm breaks on Bard 10x the number of times it does on my enchanter. Maybe it gets better at higher levels but I was having hell using it in Ancient Crypt the other day, maybe mobs have a resist in there or something.

Enchanter I felt comfortable having a charmed pet to the point I wasn't constantly alert. With the Bard I'm on the edge of my seat and afraid to alt tab to respond to a message. I wonder if they meant in terms of mana cost? I'll have to watch the stream later.
The complaints with bard charm was it works to a higher mob level than enc, and it's pretty disruptive if your in an outside zone doing flyby charms for half the camps in the zone and slowly working them down.

So could be worse in a dungeon now?

The cool looking shield i thought he said it was a super old one from the undead pyramid area. Has terrible stats, and sounded like it wasn't long for the world.
 

Del

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Very good, very easy, you'll be bored here I think since you like 12+ box don't you?

You'll be your own raid force here, world bosses are really 2-3 group encounters at best and are level locked. If you have a team at every level for locked encounters a person that had been boxing for years would have 0 issue boxing here.

Classes are easier IMO than EQ, they are less complex, more "rewarding".

You roll a Inq, Bard / Chanter, Cleric, Shaman, Archer (I think this is still silly OP?) and flex with another melee or DPS and you would be able to handle likely every camp in the game atm. Some mroe "Challenging" than others due to the same issues EQ has with pathing and what not.
I think I had an easier time 6 boxing in EQ than I do 3 boxing in this game. Most classes have a higher APM here even if it's not a lot.