Monsters and Memories (Project_N) - Old School Indie MMO

fanaskin said:

highly unlikely glyph system is less damage and not that the changes to spells lowering base damage but scaling it more with INT in the same patch.

ie get some fucking gear newb, also you can just put spells on the bar and skip the glyph system entirely. all it does it gives you more spells to cast.

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Hatorade said:

So…numbers are out and md to high level wizards with gear around 180+ int are doing half the damage they did pre patch. What is considered not newb gear?

Now if this is the new base line(doubt it) imagine logging into a rogue and suddenly your backstabs are hitting for half of what they were and the mobs health has increased across the board for longer TTK.

Love this game and I want to see it succeed but you white knighting a clear fuck up is why I responded with “lol”

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Daidraco said:

Seasonal component of the druid was done by someone who saw the trash ass design of the WoW Druid's solar alignment and thought "THATS COOL!" without ever playing the class in any serious capacity. Or better yet, since its rose color glassing itself back to that expansion - they likely watched a youtube video of someone using honorbuddy to maximize the dps rotation, topping the meters. Not that a normal person couldnt do it, but I cant for the life of me think that anyone that has played a DPS role across several expansions and different classes wants that shit to come back. I do not want to play a fucking boomkin 24/7 on the fucking everquest-like druid with clunky ass spells, and fuck all movement effects.

Make the alignment of the seasons be a stance, or increase their power and make the druid go pray to a fucking tree or something for long term season buffs. Hell - make them go on a quest to unlock each seasons benefits and let them build those buffs into a single self buff onto their character as they level. But stance dancing is fucking awful on any class and you should be ashamed of yourself for trying to make it part of a class. Yes, aligning yourself and pregaming the alignment is, at its heart, fucking stance dancing.

This isnt a "Lets see where it goes!" kind of situation either. Because whoever designed the seasons has zero imagination. Never mind the impact of a DPS (Oh no. You're 10 fucking stacks into the season of suck because you're trying to maximize healing, so now you have to wait for all 10 stacks to drop and then go through another entire fucking season to help burn a mob. Yes, its a fucking exaggeration.) Or, the idea that the tank has to wait for your fucking season to turn into the season of suck just to pull a group of fucking mobs so he knows he can get 20% greater heals on a large pack. WHY? Because the fucking druid doesnt have Lull anymore.

I mean think this shit through for five fucking seconds. If you're so enamored with the fucking seasons and alignments and dont want that code to go to waste - change them to something that isnt a step above the baseline of mathematics for combat. Mana Spent vs Mana Gained vs Output amount of DPS/Heal. Never mind its a constant fucking nightmare to balance - Like Horee shit, this isnt Papa Johns. Better Healing, Better Damage, Better fucking pizza type of simplicity.

Change it to shit like Summer stance gives all healing spells a thorns effect. All Winter damage spells give a universal (melee/spell casting) slow effect. etc. etc. Yes - those are base line mathematics at their heart, too. But the entire group doesnt have to dance around the Druids "seasons" just so they can do shit. You're adding fucking tedium to the class just for the sake of flavor and all its going to do is make people not want to deal with the Druid if a fucking Cleric is LFG.

I personally like the idea of following the existing quest where there is some sickness in the world and you're going around, tracking down the fucking root cause of the sickness... and as you're doing that quest, the druids are teaching you the way of the seasons and you're gaining additional effects that stack on your AURA. You're a fucking druid - you have plane of growth type shit blooming behind you as you walk when you're an archon. Dive into the fucking theme of the Druid for fucks sake. More mana here, but not there, more damage here, but not there is just so fucking lazy.

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Daidraco said:

Seasonal component of the druid was done by someone who saw the trash ass design of the WoW Druid's solar alignment and thought "THATS COOL!" without ever playing the class in any serious capacity. Or better yet, since its rose color glassing itself back to that expansion - they likely watched a youtube video of someone using honorbuddy to maximize the dps rotation, topping the meters. Not that a normal person couldnt do it, but I cant for the life of me think that anyone that has played a DPS role across several expansions and different classes wants that shit to come back. I do not want to play a fucking boomkin 24/7 on the fucking everquest-like druid with clunky ass spells, and fuck all movement effects.

Make the alignment of the seasons be a stance, or increase their power and make the druid go pray to a fucking tree or something for long term season buffs. Hell - make them go on a quest to unlock each seasons benefits and let them build those buffs into a single self buff onto their character as they level. But stance dancing is fucking awful on any class and you should be ashamed of yourself for trying to make it part of a class. Yes, aligning yourself and pregaming the alignment is, at its heart, fucking stance dancing.

This isnt a "Lets see where it goes!" kind of situation either. Because whoever designed the seasons has zero imagination. Never mind the impact of a DPS (Oh no. You're 10 fucking stacks into the season of suck because you're trying to maximize healing, so now you have to wait for all 10 stacks to drop and then go through another entire fucking season to help burn a mob. Yes, its a fucking exaggeration.) Or, the idea that the tank has to wait for your fucking season to turn into the season of suck just to pull a group of fucking mobs so he knows he can get 20% greater heals on a large pack. WHY? Because the fucking druid doesnt have Lull anymore.

I mean think this shit through for five fucking seconds. If you're so enamored with the fucking seasons and alignments and dont want that code to go to waste - change them to something that isnt a step above the baseline of mathematics for combat. Mana Spent vs Mana Gained vs Output amount of DPS/Heal. Never mind its a constant fucking nightmare to balance - Like Horee shit, this isnt Papa Johns. Better Healing, Better Damage, Better fucking pizza type of simplicity.

Change it to shit like Summer stance gives all healing spells a thorns effect. All Winter damage spells give a universal (melee/spell casting) slow effect. etc. etc. Yes - those are base line mathematics at their heart, too. But the entire group doesnt have to dance around the Druids "seasons" just so they can do shit. You're adding fucking tedium to the class just for the sake of flavor and all its going to do is make people not want to deal with the Druid if a fucking Cleric is LFG.

I personally like the idea of following the existing quest where there is some sickness in the world and you're going around, tracking down the fucking root cause of the sickness... and as you're doing that quest, the druids are teaching you the way of the seasons and you're gaining additional effects that stack on your AURA. You're a fucking druid - you have plane of growth type shit blooming behind you as you walk when you're an archon. Dive into the fucking theme of the Druid for fucks sake. More mana here, but not there, more damage here, but not there is just so fucking lazy.

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GuardianX said:

Discord - Group Chat That’s All Fun & Games

Discord is great for playing games and chilling with friends, or even building a worldwide community. Customize your own space to talk, play, and hang out.

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Interesting, certainly makes gearing a bit easier for healers.

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Smithy said:

Yea, this game is gonna fail, at least in the sense that it will not 'break through' to a larger audience, but be stuck with the former EQ/P99 crowd. Nothing the devs can do either, aside from making an entirely new, modern game that alienates the poopsocks and brings in the normies. My +1 is a friend from childhood, don't see or talk to him much these days, but I knew he was super-interested in the game and gave it to him. He is a heavily sedated schizophrenic with highly debilitating pseudo-autism (they aren't sure if it is or isn't, because he has all the downsides with no savant upside), and in general is just a completely hopeless human being. Thanks to him, I can recognize his behavior from other players that may not be as obvious otherwise, and it's baffling how common it is.

Most of these folks don't have the cognitive ability to make to 60 quickly, if ever, but don't worry, as you grow out of their sphere, along with the 'core' player semi-normies, you get to interact with the no-life manchildren poopsocks. I hate these people even more, folks who have completely replaced any IRL accomplishment with a digital progression. It's not a game to them, it's real life, and their brain calibrates the consequences and rewards as such. Every game will have em, but these are a certain type of losers, they are older and more pathetic than your typical no-lifer. They are stuck in the early 2000s, constantly waxing on their glory days of EQ. In other games these folks might still have hope, perhaps they are a college student smart enough to dial-in Bs and Cs with absolutely minimal effort while gaming 80+ hours a week and still get a job and have a life after college. These are the ones who didn't, and now they are 40+ years old doing the same thing they were 20+ years ago. It's bad enough having to interact with them in any capacity, but now I have to HEAR their grating voices on discord? I don't understand it, perhaps you can't help looking like a nerd, but I would do anything to reform my voice if I were some of these folks. My only solace is that I can't smell them, but that's about it.

No normal human being is going to enjoy interreacting with these people, and I'm about done even trying to do so. Game itself is just alright with potential to be really good, though not great, but these folks will alienate any sane human being from getting into the game regardless.

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Smithy said:

Yea, this game is gonna fail, at least in the sense that it will not 'break through' to a larger audience, but be stuck with the former EQ/P99 crowd. Nothing the devs can do either, aside from making an entirely new, modern game that alienates the poopsocks and brings in the normies. My +1 is a friend from childhood, don't see or talk to him much these days, but I knew he was super-interested in the game and gave it to him. He is a heavily sedated schizophrenic with highly debilitating pseudo-autism (they aren't sure if it is or isn't, because he has all the downsides with no savant upside), and in general is just a completely hopeless human being. Thanks to him, I can recognize his behavior from other players that may not be as obvious otherwise, and it's baffling how common it is.

Most of these folks don't have the cognitive ability to make to 60 quickly, if ever, but don't worry, as you grow out of their sphere, along with the 'core' player semi-normies, you get to interact with the no-life manchildren poopsocks. I hate these people even more, folks who have completely replaced any IRL accomplishment with a digital progression. It's not a game to them, it's real life, and their brain calibrates the consequences and rewards as such. Every game will have em, but these are a certain type of losers, they are older and more pathetic than your typical no-lifer. They are stuck in the early 2000s, constantly waxing on their glory days of EQ. In other games these folks might still have hope, perhaps they are a college student smart enough to dial-in Bs and Cs with absolutely minimal effort while gaming 80+ hours a week and still get a job and have a life after college. These are the ones who didn't, and now they are 40+ years old doing the same thing they were 20+ years ago. It's bad enough having to interact with them in any capacity, but now I have to HEAR their grating voices on discord? I don't understand it, perhaps you can't help looking like a nerd, but I would do anything to reform my voice if I were some of these folks. My only solace is that I can't smell them, but that's about it.

No normal human being is going to enjoy interreacting with these people, and I'm about done even trying to do so. Game itself is just alright with potential to be really good, though not great, but these folks will alienate any sane human being from getting into the game regardless.

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