It's probably gonna be an early next year thing regardless. But bring on the trolls.
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Monsters and Memories (Project_N) - Old School Indie MMO
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The deep gnome animations are really top tier. I've loved the murder hobo saucer eyes from the get go. They are teeny as fuck tho for shorty race haters. Cool little hops on casting, Cloud inspired 2h animations- but tragically they only have BST as on option for real 2h love. I'm speedrunning a deep gnome necro to check out the fd animations. The DE female one is actually top kek, with the dramatic arm movement.
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- Got Tam to investigate the Platinum Badge quest mob at the boat and found where they were ran off to and he/she reset it. No thanks to Trent not giving a fk. rabble rabble rabble. Im killing the PH's now, so you should be able to do it when you log in.- 1
Siliconemelons
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Thanks bro.
I got killed by the 2nd dude twice because I get hit with just like 1fps smackdowns in NH sometimes if I "turn to fast" - glory of a M3 air MacBook - I am fine everywhere else but NH... may give it 1 more go-- the 3 at once is hard when the named is up... and the bends has a tendency to just drop mad agro on you with like 100 bros.
I got killed by the 2nd dude twice because I get hit with just like 1fps smackdowns in NH sometimes if I "turn to fast" - glory of a M3 air MacBook - I am fine everywhere else but NH... may give it 1 more go-- the 3 at once is hard when the named is up... and the bends has a tendency to just drop mad agro on you with like 100 bros.
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Finally got the 2nd guy, off to the boat guy (tomorrow)… this dude took fooorreeevvveerr to spawn.
Seems like the last dude is just rough to get up to his spawn.
Seems like the last dude is just rough to get up to his spawn.
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Just have someone invis you up to him. You'll only have to fight the dark blue and light together in the room. Just remember the doors dont block line of sight like they "should".
Another quest you can do, and thisll be easier on your PC is:
Aashir's Earring - Monsters and Memories Wiki
Wiki Quest walkthrough.
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In other news - WOW Forever, unfortunately, seems to be stealing a lot of popularity in the MMO drought right now. Everything Ive ran across is preparing for a decrease in subs. Makes me feel bad for the launches that are happening right now, between Aion 2, this and other lesser known IP's. I just cant imagine playing WoW again, regardless of it having new zones in the "classic" experience.
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Got the first 3 heads - but my factions is not 25% into kindly... and I found like 4-5 bracers lol - guess I will just camp out the last dude and see how faction looks once I get that done - do you really need that high to finish the turn ins? sheesh.
Yeah I saw that escort quest for the earring, I have better, but it is a good one to know for EA it seems fairly straight forward... mostly the notebook pages collection
Is WOW Forever a thing? is it like a classic server "real 1.0"?? with... lots of fog and sun glare? I watched the comparison screen video- the bull people city? I forgot it... anywho- it was halarious because in "WoW" you can see the entire thing, recognize it, see all the buildings and stuff stand out from the ground...then - swipes over to "new"- and its like "what? huuu cant see, its like...a mess"
Yeah I saw that escort quest for the earring, I have better, but it is a good one to know for EA it seems fairly straight forward... mostly the notebook pages collection
Is WOW Forever a thing? is it like a classic server "real 1.0"?? with... lots of fog and sun glare? I watched the comparison screen video- the bull people city? I forgot it... anywho- it was halarious because in "WoW" you can see the entire thing, recognize it, see all the buildings and stuff stand out from the ground...then - swipes over to "new"- and its like "what? huuu cant see, its like...a mess"
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enchanter rework could be massive. Assuming they overcorrect and butcher charm as is expected then you could see a real shakeup in the endgame ‘meta’ or whatever there is of it.
wow forever’s release doesn’t really impact me and im guessing some others like me, it will be easy enuf to play both of these games at the same time because of the slow nature of mnm, and because of the relatively lower time commitment of wow. I guess is 30$ a month is a bridge too far then you have to choose
wow forever’s release doesn’t really impact me and im guessing some others like me, it will be easy enuf to play both of these games at the same time because of the slow nature of mnm, and because of the relatively lower time commitment of wow. I guess is 30$ a month is a bridge too far then you have to choose
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I really like this concept.
Just because Ench, Sham, Bard were the OP classes in EQ doesn’t mean they have to be in MnM imo, let some other classes have a bit of a rise instead. Plus it’s fun to watch the tears of people who “loved” those classes when in reality they just loved being an OP class
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Classic charm was a coin toss of instant death in "real" 1999 EQ... I remember enchanters working with the druids and stuff to snare it pre charm so if it broke they could run- and also, there were times where the knights just sat there and taunted charmed pets.
Now talk about "not classic" but charm in the emu era is way WAY more "usable" - also I am sure they changed it on live sometime in vel/sol/pop - but classic - kunark it was not "oh look a leet perma pet" - it was meant as a emergency temp pet type situation / cc
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Flobee
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Give charmed NPC on break a 10-15s berserk buff doubling attack speed, damage, whatever makes sense. Make risk/reward great again
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Kithani
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Just make it similar to how it is now at max level I think you can charm up to 52?
Honestly you could make charm pet dps just do the damage of a mage or necro pet and Enchanter is still a solid group contribution with all their other buffs and utility
Honestly you could make charm pet dps just do the damage of a mage or necro pet and Enchanter is still a solid group contribution with all their other buffs and utility
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Siliconemelons
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I think EQ did that for a time, where when you charmed an NPC it essentially became "A pet" - like a pet class, set level range, damage, skills etc... so it really was just a "pick your cool looking pet" game, as the "what the NPC did" was a set "balanced" style pet
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It's a weird conversation to have with these devs, though. The lead designer for the revamp .. likes... the way the Enchanter worked in EQ. Does that mean he agrees with how Charm was handled in EQ? Fk if we know cause theyre tight lipped on any changes, and for good reason. People are going to flip their shit when they change how Charm works.
Personally, I think that the Enchanter with the Charm pet is too powerful as its currently implemented, and I also agree that the Enchanter itself - even though it brings a lot to the table - would be too weak with just the bound pet. The idea that "Theyre utility, stop trying to make them a DPS!" is just not an opinion I can get behind. They need to fit the trinity somewhere and with their toolkit, it should be more of a DPS rather than some ethereal "utility" class design that, out of 18 classes - the Enchanter and the bard are the only ones that "fit" that role.
I personally think Charm should remain viable and they should have some caveats. If they just made charm pets unable to be buffed or healed, that would go a LONG ways towards unfucking the current situation. Then, when it dies - if the group didnt do the majority of the damage to the mob from FULL Hp - then it yields no exp. Then, as novel and interesting as the idea is - the charmed mob shouldnt be able to buff the party or the enchanter. Then, add in a requirement that the Charmed NPC must at least con "Uneasy" to the Enchanter. Lastly - Charm should be a "forever" DOT. In that, there is a constant countdown timer before the DOT just kills the charmed pet. Since Charm works off a Snapshot of the current Charisma of the Enchanter - then they have to recast all of their charisma buffs, faction buffs and MR debuffs on the mob each time. Making this a High Cost for any group and makes people ask "is it worth it?"
Simple shit like that will keep the charmed mob from taking a tanks spot and itll knock down its DPS considerably. We dont have to fuck over the Enchanter to bring the class in line no matter how much we would like to see that happen.
Ive mentioned that to devs and I get two different responses. One response from one dev on their discord was that the enchanter is too powerful and somehow came up to the point that the Enchanter without a pet, charmed or bound, is already comparable in DPS/Utility as other classes. Saying that with the current implementation, a charm pet is 200-250% effectiveness of other DPS classes with the Enchanter's damage. Then, in a stream, another dev said that they would be "too" weak without a charm pet and that the class bound pet doesnt bring enough to the table. Or in other words, without a Charm pet, the Enchanter would be too weak or less than 100% effectiveness. What is considered 100%? What is considered 200-250%? How did they come to those numbers? I have nfc.
Personally, I think that the Enchanter with the Charm pet is too powerful as its currently implemented, and I also agree that the Enchanter itself - even though it brings a lot to the table - would be too weak with just the bound pet. The idea that "Theyre utility, stop trying to make them a DPS!" is just not an opinion I can get behind. They need to fit the trinity somewhere and with their toolkit, it should be more of a DPS rather than some ethereal "utility" class design that, out of 18 classes - the Enchanter and the bard are the only ones that "fit" that role.
I personally think Charm should remain viable and they should have some caveats. If they just made charm pets unable to be buffed or healed, that would go a LONG ways towards unfucking the current situation. Then, when it dies - if the group didnt do the majority of the damage to the mob from FULL Hp - then it yields no exp. Then, as novel and interesting as the idea is - the charmed mob shouldnt be able to buff the party or the enchanter. Then, add in a requirement that the Charmed NPC must at least con "Uneasy" to the Enchanter. Lastly - Charm should be a "forever" DOT. In that, there is a constant countdown timer before the DOT just kills the charmed pet. Since Charm works off a Snapshot of the current Charisma of the Enchanter - then they have to recast all of their charisma buffs, faction buffs and MR debuffs on the mob each time. Making this a High Cost for any group and makes people ask "is it worth it?"
Simple shit like that will keep the charmed mob from taking a tanks spot and itll knock down its DPS considerably. We dont have to fuck over the Enchanter to bring the class in line no matter how much we would like to see that happen.
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The holy trinity in EQ wasn’t tank heals DPS it was tank heals slower
Ench fits the trinity just fine IMO. I actually wish there was 1 maybe 2 more utility/cc classes
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Rangers sitting at camp making s'mores and smoking meats for the boys. Utility class
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Ehh… slows didnt replace heals…… shaman had both- and slows allowed the lower shaman heals to be sufficient / successful.
If you had only a war-rog-enchanter in EQ you would have lots of down time, you could get through the fights burning down and being able to take the slower damage.
What enchanter did was allowed a non-prime (cleric) healer be successful - even stretching like a pally being good enough.
Shaman in EQ was an insane class… why BST was a super OP hybrid. Like what couldn’t a shaman do… DoT. DD. Slow, Heal, pet, plate armor, some even melee dmg. Canni…regen..SoW… heck if they could port…whew..i mean they have gate…
If you had only a war-rog-enchanter in EQ you would have lots of down time, you could get through the fights burning down and being able to take the slower damage.
What enchanter did was allowed a non-prime (cleric) healer be successful - even stretching like a pally being good enough.
Shaman in EQ was an insane class… why BST was a super OP hybrid. Like what couldn’t a shaman do… DoT. DD. Slow, Heal, pet, plate armor, some even melee dmg. Canni…regen..SoW… heck if they could port…whew..i mean they have gate…