Monsters and Memories (Project_N) - Old School Indie MMO

Kithani

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Imagine being a Rampage member

You take off from your help desk job for a week using your PTO

You play all week pooping in socks and subsisting on pizza rolls in your minivan down by the river

All that time, flushed down the toilet, banned for picking up plants lmfao

#FoHSupreme
 
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Sithro

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I think the mud system could be kind of fun if they implemented it better. Maybe having a menu come up when you right click an object with the mud commands in it, and let the player try to choose the best way to interact with an object (or even a mob). Could even allow for alternate outcomes.

Having the whole thing as mostly typing in commands is kind of a bummer. I mean they can co-exist, but it feels old even to me who played EQ back in the day.
 
Valorath

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Thoughts and prayers, bro.

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edit: trent, in my groups' limited interactions with him, seems like an uncompromising dick.
 
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Grabbit Allworth

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Valorath said:
Thoughts and prayers, bro.

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edit: trent, in my groups' limited interactions with him, seems like an uncompromising dick.
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His post comes off as infuriatingly sanctimonious to me, but I know it's because of my situation.

I'm not going to keep rehashing what happened, but I wasn't sure if it was a bug or a mechanic. Still, I stopped after an hour out of an abundance of caution. The hotfix didn't happen for like 12 hours after my 'offense.' And if 5 or 6 stacks (I didn't even fill a goddamn backpack) of fucking herbs gathered under uncertain conditions is worth a permanent ban -- then fuck you and your game.

Furthermore, people were running all over the place around me and I made absolutely no attempt to hide what I was doing. Again, because I didn't feel like I was doing anything wrong.

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Other than Shawn, I know absolutely nothing about any body of the M&M team so I looked in to Trent and this is quote from one of his forum posts -- "Calling a Wood Elf "knife ear" is fine. Calling a Deep Elf (or, really, anyone) "darkie" is not."

After reading that, I am not even remotely surprised by the way this guy conducts himself.
 
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Drapdis

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Grabbit Allworth said:
'Illegitimately?'

I don't know for sure. Somewhere between 100-150? Each node gave 1-3.
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Grabbit Allworth said:
His post comes off as infuriatingly sanctimonious to me, but I know it's because of my situation.

I'm not going to keep rehashing what happened, but I wasn't sure if it was a bug or a mechanic. Still, I stopped after an hour out of an abundance of caution. The hotfix didn't happen for like 12 hours after my 'offense.' And if 5 or 6 stacks (I didn't even fill a goddamn backpack) of fucking herbs gathered under uncertain conditions is worth a permanent ban -- then fuck you and your game.

Furthermore, people were running all over the place around me and I made absolutely no attempt to hide what I was doing. Again, because I didn't feel like I was doing anything wrong.

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Other than Shawn, I know absolutely nothing about any body of the M&M team so I looked in to Trent and this is quote from one of his forum posts -- "Calling a Wood Elf "knife ear" is fine. Calling a Deep Elf (or, really, anyone) "darkie" is not."

After reading that, I am not even remotely surprised by the way this guy conducts himself.
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It sucks you got banned and I would have exploited it if I had found it too. But now I won’t do that if I find something suspicious. Bans for exploits like this send a strong signal to the players. For the game overall it’s a good ban, just not for you. May your sacrifice be remembered.
 
Grabbit Allworth

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Flobee said:
My man...
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If you think I sat at a single node and just looted it non-stop for an hour, you couldn't be more wrong.

First, it didn't work like that. Second, I was following my normal gathering track and two of the nodes (same plant type) were the ones respawning erratically. The node would re-pop a few times (sometimes instantly, sometimes with a few second delay) and then stop completely and I'd carry on my path. When I swung back by it'd be back up and I'd grab as many as it'd let me. The way it was behaving is what led me to think it may be some kind of linked node system and I was just getting super lucky.

I spent more time running around that hour than actually gathering.... I mean come on, man. I looted 5 or 6 stacks....If I just sat there spamming gather I would have had more than I could possibly carry in an hour.
 
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Fight

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It always amazes me when Dev's are so fucking sanctimonious that they punish their own customers for their fuck-ups. In Grabbit's example, he didn't cheat or find an exploit. He played the game. The game incentivizes you to find and gather mat's for your profession... and they give him the death penalty for doing that? WTF lol.

Think about a scale from 1 - 10 of egregiousness:

10 - You hack the game servers, steal credit card numbers, delete other people characters, and enrich your own.
8- You find a dupe bug and destroy a server economy.
6- ShowEQ level stuff, warping, manipulation of in-game stuff with GM level powers.
5- Scamming other players, intentional training, repeated egregious harassment, ninja-looting and generally taking advantage of their good-will.
4- Non-intended use of in-game mechanics, LOS, Pathing, Etc.
2- Find a repeatable quest, great source of money, exp, etc. Everything above board, you just find and do something that is better than intended.
1- Name violations, unintentional training, or being annoying in the chat channels.

If you are giving the death penalty to anything lower than a 6, you are straight up Re-Fucking-Tarded and a massive pussy. Own your fuckup, handle it quietly, give a slap on the wrist, and tell the player that you might even have given them a week of free game time in the future if they were the first to report that something seems off here and reported it.
 
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Kharzette

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BTW I'm guessing the out of control nodes caused them to roll back the keeper's bight zone. All the extra goodies the animals were dropping there are gone and it is back to poverty mode. Lotsa empty mobs or a 4 cp tooth.

Also, someone invite Megumin. That's my mage.

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Noodleface

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Fight said:
It always amazes me when Dev's are so fucking sanctimonious that they punish their own customers for their fuck-ups. In Grabbit's example, he didn't cheat or find an exploit. He played the game. The game incentivizes you to find and gather mat's for your profession... and they give him the death penalty for doing that? WTF lol.

Think about a scale from 1 - 10 of egregiousness:

10 - You hack the game servers, steal credit card numbers, delete other people characters, and enrich your own.
8- You find a dupe bug and destroy a server economy.
6- ShowEQ level stuff, warping, manipulation of in-game stuff with GM level powers.
5- Scamming other players, intentional training, repeated egregious harassment, ninja-looting and generally taking advantage of their good-will.
4- Non-intended use of in-game mechanics, LOS, Pathing, Etc.
2- Find a repeatable quest, great source of money, exp, etc. Everything above board, you just find and do something that is better than intended.
1- Name violations, unintentional training, or being annoying in the chat channels.

If you are giving the death penalty to anything lower than a 6, you are straight up Re-Fucking-Tarded and a massive pussy. Own your fuckup, handle it quietly, give a slap on the wrist, and tell the player that you might even have given them a week of free game time in the future if they were the first to report that something seems off here and reported it.
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Almost filed a petition today in AC but let it go. Some guy ran by me fighting a mob (aggroed me) and said "I camped here first". I said yeah just passing through. Next thing I know he dropped 3 skeletons on me with feign death.
 
Siliconemelons

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I think I saw you- did you shout “thanks for the train” or something lol

I am a kill or two from 20, so then its time to venture back to UD and buy stuff… I already had a free port to bind bc someone came into my office and I didnt FD lol

Uncle Hershel didnt want to spawn for me :( actually had the camp for about 1.5 hours…not bad as busy as that place is.

I am interested in the books, and what “named” it can spawn
 
Noodleface

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Siliconemelons said:
I think I saw you- did you shout “thanks for the train” or something lol

I am a kill or two from 20, so then its time to venture back to UD and buy stuff… I already had a free port to bind bc someone came into my office and I didnt FD lol

Uncle Hershel didnt want to spawn for me :( actually had the camp for about 1.5 hours…not bad as busy as that place is.

I am interested in the books, and what “named” it can spawn
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I couldn't figure out if it was really intentional or not. But also the camp he tried claiming was the entire floor? Seemed bullshit
 
Siliconemelons

Siliconemelons

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Noodleface said:
I couldn't figure out if it was really intentional or not. But also the camp he tried claiming was the entire floor? Seemed bullshit
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People have some very… potato like thoughts on what camps are..

Like in AC mangles camp is in the L hallway outside his hallway… like 6 mobs away from him… and not even at the entry to his hallway…

There is seemingly a group of people that are going with the “if we can kill it, that is the scope of our camp”

I have not read the rules, honestly… but I am sure it will progress to the p99 setup of “you can only technically camp 1 mob” and you have too be within pulling range “or even agro” of the mob.

When I was in WB at one of the GM a monk ran in with 4-5 mobs, looked at me, my pet, and a GIANT OGER who was waiting for the camp… sat there, the FD’ed them on me.

“Sorry, I didnt know anyone was in here I was just checking”

The long hallway you could have looked at the entrance, FDed there, or the fact the entire wing is dead didnt give it away? Or my glowing pet or the GIANT OGER?
 
Noodleface

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Siliconemelons said:
People have some very… potato like thoughts on what camps are..

Like in AC mangles camp is in the L hallway outside his hallway… like 6 mobs away from him… and not even at the entry to his hallway…

There is seemingly a group of people that are going with the “if we can kill it, that is the scope of our camp”

I have not read the rules, honestly… but I am sure it will progress to the p99 setup of “you can only technically camp 1 mob” and you have too be within pulling range “or even agro” of the mob.

When I was in WB at one of the GM a monk ran in with 4-5 mobs, looked at me, my pet, and a GIANT OGER who was waiting for the camp… sat there, the FD’ed them on me.

“Sorry, I didnt know anyone was in here I was just checking”

The long hallway you could have looked at the entrance, FDed there, or the fact the entire wing is dead didnt give it away? Or my glowing pet or the GIANT OGER?
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All I can tell you is Bigumm has made an enemy of the guild. Punishable by death
 
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bolok

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Kharzette said:
BTW I'm guessing the out of control nodes caused them to roll back the keeper's bight zone. All the extra goodies the animals were dropping there are gone and it is back to poverty mode. Lotsa empty mobs or a 4 cp tooth.

Also, someone invite Megumin. That's my mage.

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every mage needs a HUGE nuke that takes 100% of your mana then you nap for the rest of the day.
 
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Grabbit Allworth said:
Welp. It's over for me.

I got permanently banned.

There were some herbalist nodes that were respawning almost instantly and the patch nodes said that they'd be more plentiful. However, to be fair, I thought they might be bugged, but I also thought it was possible that like some other games they could be linked and when someone else harvests a node it despawns and respawns somewhere else. I thought it might be possible that maybe me and another person (possibly more) were gathering nodes at the same time causing them to kinda 'bounce' back and forth.

I did it for about an hour and collecting a few stacks. I figured, at worst, even if they were bugged they'd take the materials back. Never in a million years did I think I would get perma-banned. I have literally never and I do mean NEVER cheated in a game or used an exploit in my entire life, but here we are.

Fuck it, whatever.
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Are you sure you're not leaving anything out? That's grade-A retarded if that got you banned because if so then this company's long term prospects are.... sus.
 
Daidraco

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Noodleface said:
Yeah I'll probably go back and try to get in a groove. The mobs in AC also feel like they have a fuckton more hp than anywhere else. Maybe it's tuned for groups though
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I've no lifed this game this phase a lot. If there is one key thing I can tell you to make your life easier - if you're just trying to get exp and level (not really camp anything)... Camp Orcs. If you find an Orc camp with some drops you like, great. Whether its orcs in BTB, in EW, in KB, in SS, etc. They are BY FAR the most forgiving/rewarding mobs in the game in terms of loot/coin/exp/moderate health/moderate damage. Anything 3+ levels higher than you, of course be cautious. But every single camp Ive had with Orcs has went incredibly well compared to undead, ashira, goblins, etc. Camp whatever you like, sure. But in hindsight, my static agrees that we should have focused Orcs.
Siliconemelons said:
I think what a LOT of the issues come down to…

Is… no one knows how to interact with people. No one talks or even picks up on social cues.

There is no automatic greed/need auto roll loot button. There is no group finder and summon stone. You sit camp and pull- you dont just Zerg around a zone. You should not pull over or through camps etc.

The players just do not know these things, they have zero frame of reference- while us old dads are super “wtf” because its like dealing with an autistic kid
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Kithani said:
I don’t get this one but maybe I’m just not the target market. I’d give a few medallions to my wizard honestly reward the dude for sitting on his ass Medding instead of running around loot whoring IMO

I don’t think this has anything to do with WoW I think loot whoring has been a thing since classic EQ it’s just more obvious after 30 years of watching people loot whore it up and everyone is older and more willing to call it out than when they were 14
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I think the medallions arent all that bad.. In a group of friends / static. I loot everything and split it evenly among us. They DID nerf coin with that change, though. Having medallions and shit like that shrouds the fact that they nerfed coin drops across the board. Its a lot harder for people to tell that theyre getting less money now - unless theyre attentive to whats happening. A PUG doesnt have that option and .. thats why its a poorly designed system right now. If we had some kind of Loot system that would roll it off to a random person. Or if loot rights alternated between group members - then it would be fine. But until they put something like that in, the coin loot is going to be a problem.

On that note - Since my static was with me for hours and hours all this time.. we've been comparing coin after the end of each session. The coin "Split" is not even remotely fucking even. No matter what kind of fancy system they "SAY" they have - its anything but. If I had to guess, its completely random. Its just SO obvious when you're boxing characters that people are getting the shaft on coin split.

Grabbit Allworth said:
Welp. It's over for me.

I got permanently banned.

There were some herbalist nodes that were respawning almost instantly and the patch nodes said that they'd be more plentiful. However, to be fair, I thought they might be bugged, but I also thought it was possible that like some other games they could be linked and when someone else harvests a node it despawns and respawns somewhere else. I thought it might be possible that maybe me and another person (possibly more) were gathering nodes at the same time causing them to kinda 'bounce' back and forth.

I did it for about an hour and collecting a few stacks. I figured, at worst, even if they were bugged they'd take the materials back. Never in a million years did I think I would get perma-banned. I have literally never and I do mean NEVER cheated in a game or used an exploit in my entire life, but here we are.

Fuck it, whatever.
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Hatorade said:
Yeah if I got banned over my collecting of near useless herbs I would be pissed. Alchemy is still a trash tier tradeskill.
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Pasteton said:
Also was it Trent that banned you? If so dm Shawn or post it on discord. The guy is a loose cannon and has been causing problems for players for a while now. A permaban for herbs is ridiculous. A warning is more than enough.
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I would follow Pasteton's lead on this. Even if you were intentionally abusing a fucking herb, not saying you are, but if you were - its a fucking herb. It was respawning, and to be honest with you - if I was doing alchemy, I probably would have taken advantage of it to. Completely oblivious to the fact that it would be considered cheating because... As you've said Grabbit Allworth Grabbit Allworth ... for as long as I can remember, the system has been in place (even though they say they changed it) that when one node goes down, another pops up. With three boxes, I can lock down entire areas of nodes (and guess what?) they still pop up when another is looted. It may have a "cool down" but there is ALWAYS a node spawning when one goes down.
 
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