Mortal Kombat II (2025)

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Am I remembering right that a director/producer/whatever for the first movie said they omitted Johnny from it because it "doesn't feel right having a white male main character in the current climate" (which was 2020)?

One of the dumber, more self-sabotaging things I've ever seen during the marketing phase of a movie, but luckily for the movie, it kinda flew under the radar.

After that it's kind of funny how now they're making the second one JOHNNY CAGE-A-THON: ALL JOHNNY ALL THE TIME

And now this new one divides the good guys and bad guys up into a blue side and red side respectively on the poster. The fuck.

Well, I'm hearing this movie is awesome, probably gonna go see it today.

About time they did an actual tournament in an MK movie. Very few of the actual games had a tournament either. Maybe just the very first one? And MK9 / MK1 (12) did too I believe, given that both are re-telling MK1 (1) to an extent.

But it's still preferable to the old Mortal Kombat 2 movie from the 90's that tried to shove everyone into the movie and they all ended stupidly cheap-looking and dead in 3 seconds.

Annihilation was such dogshit. Killing Johnny Cage off immediately. Killing Rain off without him even having a fight. What was the point of this stuff? And they planned a third one too, glad it got shitcanned.
 

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Fuck it. Even when the Cole bullshit character, this and the first one are probably the pinnacle of video game movies. Which is a bit like saying the most polished turd but whatever. This was fun.

A bit too boss babe with Kitana at the end, but that might be the actual lore? I only sporadically played MK after Deception. I don’t even know who the big bad is outside Shao Khan and Shang Tsung.

Other than the song I feel nothing for the original 1995 one. I missed most of it when I saw it at my hometown white trash theater because I was screwing a gal I went to HS with in the back row. Core memory. skanky but no regrets.
 
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A bit too boss babe with Kitana at the end, but that might be the actual lore? I only sporadically played MK after Deception. I don’t even know who the big bad is outside Shao Khan and Shang Tsung.

Some minor spoilers below.


Kitana's lore was pretty much untouched from the games, if anyone deserves to kill Shao Khan it's her.

Though with the introduction of necromancy (also from the games), they don't even try to hide the fact they'll just keep bringing people back whenever they get popular enough, so we might see him again, plus there's always timey-wimey shenanigans or multiverse, etc..

It was pretty funny they even introduced a rule to necromancy that you need to have a non-smashed skull for it to work, right after Shao Khan completely splatters Cole Young's skull and then dissolves his body in acid for good measure. He ain't gonna be in Rush Hour 3.

I was surprised they never introduced Mileena, since she is pretty much Kitana's rival for Shao Khan's favor, and also half-Tarkatan (which they did introduce). Perhaps they'll reveal her in another film.

As for the big villain, the main one would be Shinnok, an Elder God whose amulet appears in this film. I'm assuming Quan Chi will soon enough evade his Earthrealm captors and summon Shinnok to replace Shao Khan as the ruler of the Outworld Empire, Quan Chi and Shang Tsung are kind of rival sorcerers and often trying to take over the throne of Outworld too.
 
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If they want to keep introducing new characters for future Mortal Kombat films, they're already starting to run a little low on not-too-silly characters.

They've established this Mortal Kombat universe as rather realistic for Earthrealm and more of a fantasy setting for the tournament, so I'm not sure they'll want to introduce all of the cyborg-ninja characters, so that removes a bunch of possible ones already.

The ninja recolors like Rain and Smoke also probably not going to work out. They can do Ermac because the recent games have changed his design and powers enough that he's his own thing now, and he's quite badass with cool visual abilities so I think he'd be a good pick.

Reptile also could work, since he's not really a human character they can go in the direction of him having a reptilian face and claws and spitting acidic venom, anything would be better than the CGI abomination of 1995 Reptile.

Nighthawk obviously isn't gonna be a thing in this day and age, Stryker probably not for similar politically correct reasons. Kotal Khan also probably not gonna work out in case you offend 3 Aztecs somewhere.

I'd like Kenshi to be introduced, he has cool abilities and it would make for some great fight scenes I think (blind guy who can control his katana with his mind, it flies around).

Erron Black is a little silly as a concept (basically a cowboy mercenary in Outworld), but he's pretty badass. However, I think guns would kind of go against the current vision they have for the tournament, we've only seen blunt or bladed weapons.

Kintaro would be too much of a Goro redo, Sheeva also plus you can't really do much with four arms for cool choregraphy I think that's not already been done for Goro. Motaro is a bit silly.

And obviously the "kids" from the recent games (Johnny and Sonya's daughter, Jax's daughter, and a few other young characters) aren't a thing in the movie timeline.

My predictions for the next film characters :

Sonya
Raiden (just mentor role, might pass the torch to Liu Kang early into the story)
Liu Kang (as Fire God perhaps)
Kung Lao (brought back to life as per Liu Kang's vow)
Sub-Zero (the nice one, Bi-han's brother)
Kano (comic relief in every film)
Johnny Cage (if they spend money on Karl Urban again but I'm not sure he'll be the main character this time around)
Jax (resurrected)
Kitana (eye candy and token girl boss)
Jade (would be cool if she wasn't bald this time around, and also pretty)
Mileena (important role if they want to do a girl boss story)
Reptile (throwaway character for one fight)
Ermac (throwaway character for one fight but memorably badass)
Shang Tsung (different actor because he becomes young again, which is his objective in several games)
Quan Chi (plot necromancer)
Shinnok (big bad)
 

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Read it in an interview somewhere after the first one that Ed Boon doesn’t want a bastardization of the lore anymore and the current cannon is the time reset story. After the first movie he was reportedly pissed enough that from now on he demanded script oversight.

If he sticks to that I’m not sure how they can ignore their kids stepping in for their parents unless they intend to stop with the 3rd just being a Quan Chi revenant rebellion against all the realms.
 

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Im not really sure if Urban is the real main star in the movie, yes he's awesome but feel like Katana was the the big focus
 

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Im not really sure if Urban is the real main star in the movie, yes he's awesome but feel like Katana was the the big focus

As much as I love Karl Urban in pretty much everything he's in, he's too old to play a convincing main character Johnny Cage and he can't fight either. Even Jean Claude Vandamme who inspired Johnny Cage's original character design is too old to do it now.

I too was surprised that Johnny Cage doesn't really feel like the main character in this film, but on the other hand if you want it to be a Mortal Kombat film with actual combat, you're gonna need a bunch of other young and spry actors to do the kicking and jumping and flipping around. If you center the whole movie around this Johnny Cage, it's just a comedy with a few fights sprikled here and there.

I liked the way they handled it, but it makes me think Johnny Cage won't be the star of future films unless they go back in time to a younger version or something (the young Johnny Cage in the movie is actually played by Karl Urban's son, Indiana Urban).
 

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As much as I love Karl Urban in pretty much everything he's in, he's too old to play a convincing main character Johnny Cage and he can't fight either. Even Jean Claude Vandamme who inspired Johnny Cage's original character design is too old to do it now.

I too was surprised that Johnny Cage doesn't really feel like the main character in this film, but on the other hand if you want it to be a Mortal Kombat film with actual combat, you're gonna need a bunch of other young and spry actors to do the kicking and jumping and flipping around. If you center the whole movie around this Johnny Cage, it's just a comedy with a few fights sprikled here and there.

I liked the way they handled it, but it makes me think Johnny Cage won't be the star of future films unless they go back in time to a younger version or something (the young Johnny Cage in the movie is actually played by Karl Urban's son, Indiana Urban).
He's gotten grizzled enough to be a real McCoy if they could somehow get Chris Pine and Zachary Quinto back to make a few more Star Trek movies.
 
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This guy didn’t like it… but its yahoo, so a liberal goofball highly likely.
Probably mad his boyfriend was staring at Jax's manmeat the whole time...

Im not really sure if Urban is the real main star in the movie, yes he's awesome but feel like Katana was the the big focus
I think it worked well. For Cage it was his "realizing his power/destiny" movie, for Katana it was pretty much straight up story line from the game canon being played out. It was a good and functional ensemble fighting film. I did hear someone saying "They pulled a BAIT AND SWITCH!" and that doesn't feel accurate to me. Yes, they played up Cage in the marketing, but that's also being he was the one big star name, and that's what you do to get people in seats outside the MK fans you know will show up. And to his credit Urban delivered a very solid cage, and even played into his age some so it wasn't like he was trying to pretend to be in his 20s.

Saw it today with the wife, we both enjoyed it. As Critical Drinker says, it understands what it is, and it does it's best to deliver on exactly that. Kinda the Taoist wisdom of if you know you're vinegar be the best damn vinegar you can be. (Old Taoist proverb/painting). Fighting was good, Story didn't overweigh that, and they made sure progressing the story also involved a lot of fighting....

There are a lot of ways they could have ham fisted girl power crap, or whatever message, but I didn't get the feel that they did. Even the complaint above about them dividing the teams into red/blue isn't that far off from game mechanics as well. It was straight up good guys v. bad guys which I also appreciated. Sets up quaintly for sequels if they're smart enough to just keep this formula.
 
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I kept thinking about this and think I should add a couple spoilered bits.... Obviously don't read if you don't want key movie points ruined for you...
  • First , Katana isn't a girl boss, she's a teammate. She was only able to do her job because she was literally enabled by a white guy having his moment of clarity. (i.e. he figured out how to hit ← → + LK ) So if anything it's while male enablement letting women succeed.
    [*]In theory since it's MORTAL Kombat shouldn't the bad guys have been DQ'd by the gods once one was immortal and using a God's power? Yes, I know I'm not picking a fucking MK movie, but it stuck in my OCD brain for a few minutes there.....
    [*]Jade appeared to be the same age, or possibly even younger than Katana... How had she been her body guard for 20 years?
 

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Just got back from seeing this.
It was better than the previous movies for sure. I enjoyed it but it was...off. I'm not entirely sure how to explain it. The pacing was fine. Didn't feel like a 2 hour movie but... The momentum was off?

Like the momentum kept resetting. I don't know what I'm trying to convey here, just something seemed off about the movie.
 

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I kept thinking about this and think I should add a couple spoilered bits.... Obviously don't read if you don't want key movie points ruined for you...
  • First , Katana isn't a girl boss, she's a teammate. She was only able to do her job because she was literally enabled by a white guy having his moment of clarity. (i.e. he figured out how to hit ← → + LK ) So if anything it's while male enablement letting women succeed.
    [*]In theory since it's MORTAL Kombat shouldn't the bad guys have been DQ'd by the gods once one was immortal and using a God's power? Yes, I know I'm not picking a fucking MK movie, but it stuck in my OCD brain for a few minutes there.....
    [*]Jade appeared to be the same age, or possibly even younger than Katana... How had she been her body guard for 20 years?

- Mortal Kombat has more what you'd call guidelines than actual rules. Pretty much every tournament ends up with cheating with sorcery shenanigans by Shang Tsung, or Quan Chi, or both, or Shao Khan turning immortal, or invading Earthrealm before the tournament is settled, or Raiden becoming evil, or Shinnok intervening, or Kronika reverting time...

- Shao Khan said Jade was just a child when she was chosen to become Kitana's bodyguard and confidant. However, she grew up in the fighting pits instead of a castle in Edenia, so I'm guessing she was more mature and tougher than little Kitana. The actresses are 31 (Kitana) and 30 (Jade) for what it's worth.
 

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- Mortal Kombat has more what you'd call guidelines than actual rules. Pretty much every tournament ends up with cheating with sorcery shenanigans by Shang Tsung, or Quan Chi, or both, or Shao Khan turning immortal, or invading Earthrealm before the tournament is settled, or Raiden becoming evil, or Shinnok intervening, or Kronika reverting time...

- Shao Khan said Jade was just a child when she was chosen to become Kitana's bodyguard and confidant. However, she grew up in the fighting pits instead of a castle in Edenia, so I'm guessing she was more mature and tougher than little Kitana. The actresses are 31 (Kitana) and 30 (Jade) for what it's worth.
Fair... one other spoilered note :

Never thought a nut punch would be a "Friendship" finisher
 
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To be honest, if this does well, urban might be within budget of 3. It’s not like he’s peak tom cruise or Matt Damon. He’s mostly done genre action and television lately. Hell, this is his type of movie.
 

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To be honest, if this does well, urban might be within budget of 3. It’s not like he’s peak tom cruise or Matt Damon. He’s mostly done genre action and television lately. Hell, this is his type of movie.

And I'm perfectly ok with that.
I've never had a problem with actors "staying in their lane". Gimmie all the Arnold/Sly action movies where they only exist to destroy the bad guy, or to make the movie fun like Sam Rockwell or Bill Paxton. Are they Tom Cruise? Nope. But if they're in a movie, I'm fucking watching it. Which makes them A+ Actors even if Hollywood doesn't give them the credit they're due.
 
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Finally got a chance to watch a rip online of what I assume to be the entire movie…

…and I’m more convinced than ever that this reboot should have been a HBO television series with 12 solid 1 hour episodes per season and capped at 3 seasons with the destruction of the Amulet and death of Quan Chi and Shinnok, or simply follow recruitment for the tournament -> Mortal Kombat tournament -> death of Shao Khan and end there. There is just way too much to cram into a single movie that it’s nearly impossible for anyone outside of the MK universe to enjoy as much as they should in movie format lore/story wise. I think the reason the pacing doesn’t really feel right is because it doesn’t have time to properly establish (and allow the viewer to appreciate) the typical skeleton outline of what a story is with exposition, rising action, climax, falling action, and resolution. The vast majority of the movie is fight scene after fight scene (which I liked) but with most of the dialogue and story conveyed during the actual fighting and rushed. Someone dies and 10 seconds later we’re onto the next scene (and usually fight) where someone else tends to die and then immediately next scene, ect. The end result for me felt like a sprint of action without any real story payoff at the end. Pretty good if you’re just interested in the fights but thats about it.

This is one of the rare times for me where I agree completely with most reviewers that this movie is a solid 6/10 that easily had the potential to be a solid 9+ if it had the format it needed to unravel.

Literal plot armor Cole getting killed by literal god mode villain was funny though.