NBA 2020-2021: The Dubs Empire Strikes Back

TMZ is trash. Fertita was a known Trump guy.

The Houston team was put together by Morey and Dantoni. Suddenly they're both gone. What sort of future do these players see for the organization as their championship windows and athletic prime are closing?

Rockets have no cap space, no mastermind GM, no proven coach, no draft capital for the next decade. They pushed the chips all in with Harden and came close to winning it all. Suddenly the players are watching the team executives abandon ship without repercussion but they're stuck languishing in mediocrity. Houston is primed to be a playoff team, but who counts them as a championship caliber organization right now? Harden et al didn't sign up for this.

Steve Nash doesn't deserve this headache; for his sake, keep Harden away from Brooklyn. That said, I wouldn't hate seeing KD, Irving, and Harden fail together. Can you imagine a worse fit among any Big Three?

Yeah, that trio doesn't scream championships to me. Especially when their next level of guys play similar positions with similar styles (though I'm guessing they'd get shipped out in any trade).

babo said:

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Please god NO NO NONONONONONO!!!

DickTrickle said:

Yeah, that trio doesn't scream championships to me. Especially when their next level of guys play similar positions with similar styles (though I'm guessing they'd get shipped out in any trade).

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No team with Harden screams championship to me. At the end of the day he must have too many touches that never leave his hands unless hitting the rim. Never mind the defensive liability.

I mean part of his massive usage rate was just the offense he was in. KD can play off the ball primarily just fine. The big issue with Brooklyn is how much of what he does overlaps with Kyrie.

Alex said:

FUUUUUUUCK

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Shitty

Just when I was starting to get excited about hoops again for the first time in about 18 months since that piece of shit Danny Green took out Klay. I was really looking forward to the draft, sit down tonight and turn on ESPN, see all these tweets on the bottom of the screen from Lebron and other guys sending their prayers to Klay and was like noooo wtf!

Apparently the guy that broke the Gobert corona story says Klay tore his achilles. If that's true, fuck fuck fuck. Klay pretty much my all time favorite Warrior, one of the coolest dudes in the league, so shitty.

Sterling said:

I mean part of his massive usage rate was just the offense he was in. KD can play off the ball primarily just fine. The big issue with Brooklyn is how much of what he does overlaps with Kyrie.

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I'd say the biggest issue is if KD is ever himself again after tearing his Achilles / rupturing it. I tore mine at the end of June and this has got to be one of the hardest injuries to rehab and still be a top 10 in a professional sport.

calhoonjugganaut said:

I'd say the biggest issue is if KD is ever himself again after tearing his Achilles / rupturing it. I tore mine at the end of June and this has got to be one of the hardest injuries to rehab and still be a top 10 in a professional sport.

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Yeah obviously KD not really being recovered from his injury is bad. I'm just talking about Harden fitting in fine with what KD does but that there's way too much overlap with Kyrie.

Brahma said:

Please god NO NO NONONONONONO!!!

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By all means give me James Harden! Too many 3-4th quarter nightmare leads with the Celtics. Its time to move on from the Jays growing pains.
Id rather have James Harden with the rock and the clock during clutch or game winning moments than leaving it up to the Jays enough is enough.
Harden is a 60 ppg kinda guy. I wont worry about Celtics blowing the lead ever again.

You obviously mean he's capable of random 60 point games, not a 60ppg guy. That would smash Wilt's record by like 10ppg.

babo said:

By all means give me James Harden! Too many 3-4th quarter nightmare leads with the Celtics. Its time to move on from the Jays growing pains.
Id rather have James Harden with the rock and the clock during clutch or game winning moments than leaving it up to the Jays enough is enough.
Harden is a 60 ppg kinda guy. I wont worry about Celtics blowing the lead ever again.

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He might score at the end of those games for you but he will also lead to your squad being down more often as well. The worst player in the league to watch and nonexistent on the defensive end. Be careful what you wish for.

Harden is a better defender than people credit him for. He was 38th in the league in defensive winshares and was 2nd in the league in points per possession as primary defender. Of course you can massage stats however you want but he's at least now a credible defender.

Sterling said:

Harden is a better defender than people credit him for. He was 38th in the league in defensive winshares and was 2nd in the league in points per possession as primary defender. Of course you can massage stats however you want but he's at least now a credible defender.

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I will admit he has gotten better because he used to not expend any energy on defense whatsoever. He is certainly capable when he puts the energy into it. I would argue he is basically a spotlight defender though. He is competetive and obviously absurdly athletic and therefore one on one should and does defend well at times. My issues with him are rotational and team defense.