NFL 2016 - <whatever Tony is doing>

Wilson is a better Alex Smith, far from elite.

Ambiturner said:

It's stupid enough to only rank QBs based on a team stat like wins, but you've gone so far retard you're now ranking them on how their GM handles drafting and free agents

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where do you rank a QB that makes over 20 million in 2016 and is in a sub .500 team? Maybe, just maybe he's not quite worth that 20 million a year.

edit: and before people go ranting on about defenses. My whole point was originally about overpaying on a position and not having enough resources. That's why I said teams relying on drafting and getting free agents on a cheap side.

Burnem Wizfyre said:

This is beyond retarded, Bubbles is making me want to take Convo off ignore for a dose of sanity.

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I tried to explain my point of view but I think now it's time to hear a rebuttal from you people. So far I haven't read anything here that would be considered a thought out counter. Only thing I've read that I'm apparently retarded ISIS loving weaboo faggot which in itself is really really awesome.

I see what Bubbles is saying sorta. Think Denver is taking just the approach Bubbles is talking about right now. We will see how it works out.

Won't disagree Bubbles has been retard in this thread but if the end point somehow ends with QBs are getting paid to much, I agree.

Ambiturner said:

You changed your point of view because your original point was retarded. You said the only way to be an elite QB is to win a Super Bowl after signing a large contract. That's fucking stupid. What's even stupider is you then saw Eli Manning as one of the only 2 "elite" QBs and then instead of thinking "Well I guess I should keep this thought to myself then" like a normal person when you realize you had a stupid thought, you instead said "fuck it" and ran with it. Also, a normal person would have tried to add Roethlisberger to the list since he makes a lot more sense than Eli, but that would require actual reasoning skills.

Nobody disagrees with the fact that there are teams that overpay QBs. What we disagree with, is every other fucking thought you have ever had in your retarded head.

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I haven't deviated from my original point. Tom and Eli have delivered, the others have not. And I did mention Ben which means that you didn't actually read my original comment

Chanur said:

Wilson had over 4000 yards passing last year and 110 QB rating. Alex Smith has had neither, let alone back to back Superbowl appearances. You're a fucking muppet.

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I think I have made my stance pretty well known on the Seahawks. I hate them, and especially saying anything nice about them. It took me a while to be sold on Wilson, but the guy looks like he is absolutely legit. What he has been able to do with a mostly rag tag offensive line is pretty impressive.

Wilson is a good QB, not sure anyone is saying he isn't. Chanur seems to think they win because of him.

1 Drew Brees NOR 36 QB 15 15 7-8-0 428 627 68.3 4870 32 5.1 11 1.8 80 7.8 8.0 11.4 324.7 101.0 75.47 31 235 7.04 7.26 4.7 1 2
2 Philip Rivers SDG 34 QB 16 16 4-12-0 437 661 66.1 4792 29 4.4 13 2.0 80 7.2 7.2 11.0 299.5 93.8 59.44 40 264 6.46 6.45 5.7 1 2
3 Tom Brady* NWE 38 QB 16 16 12-4-0 402 624 64.4 4770 36 5.8 7 1.1 76 7.6 8.3 11.9 298.1 102.2 64.42 38 225 6.87 7.48 5.7 2 2
4 Carson Palmer* ARI 36 QB 16 16 13-3-0 342 537 63.7 4671 35 6.5 11 2.0 68 8.7 9.1 13.7 291.9 104.6 82.15 25 151 8.04 8.41 4.4 2 5
5 Matt Ryan ATL 30 QB 16 16 8-8-0 407 614 66.3 4591 21 3.4 16 2.6 70 7.5 7.0 11.3 286.9 89.0 61.79 30 203 6.81 6.35 4.7 4 4
6 Eli Manning* NYG 34 QB 16 16 6-10-0 387 618 62.6 4432 35 5.7 14 2.3 87 7.2 7.3 11.5 277.0 93.6 60.46 27 157 6.63 6.74 4.2 1 2
7 Blake Bortles JAX 23 QB 16 16 5-11-0 355 606 58.6 4428 35 5.8 18 3.0 90 7.3 7.1 12.5 276.8 88.2 46.4 51 320 6.25 6.09 7.8 3 4
8 Matthew Stafford DET 27 QB 16 16 7-9-0 398 592 67.2 4262 32 5.4 13 2.2 57 7.2 7.3 10.7 266.4 97.0 62.63 44 251 6.31 6.39 6.9 2 3
9 Ryan Tannehill MIA 27 QB 16 16 6-10-0 363 586 61.9 4208 24 4.1 12 2.0 54 7.2 7.1 11.6 263.0 88.7 43.15 45 420 6.00 5.91 7.1 2 2
10 Kirk Cousins WAS 27 QB 16 16 9-7-0 379 543 69.8 4166 29 5.3 11 2.0 78 7.7 7.8 11.0 260.4 101.6 70.05 26 186 6.99 7.14 4.6 2 3
11 Jameis Winston* TAM 21 QB 16 16 6-10-0 312 535 58.3 4042 22 4.1 15 2.8 68 7.6 7.1 13.0 252.6 84.2 58.64 27 190 6.85 6.44 4.8 2 3
12 Russell Wilson* SEA 27 QB 16 16 10-6-0 329 483 68.1 4024 34 7.0 8 1.7 80 8.3 9.0 12.2 251.5 110.1 74.91 45 265 7.12 7.73 8.5 3 3

Wilson is a better Alex Smith, far from elite.

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Wilson had over 4000 yards passing last year and 110 QB rating. Alex Smith has had neither, let alone back to back Superbowl appearances. You're a fucking muppet.

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Hows them 4k yards looking now Chanur?