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mkopec said:
IDK man, I play a shit ton of games and not one problem yet....Knocks on wood.
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It's usually not something life ending, just that the games will not have ideal drivers on launch so they tend to under perform at first, or there's occasional weird graphics glitches. A couple times I remember it being so bad I had to wait a few days for a patch to roll around.

Definitely not shitting on AMD, they aren't bad at all, just a bit slower to optimize, but they make up for it with a card that often a better $/power deal. I definitely have no issue recommending AMD video cards because of my experience with that. Especially since most new games are retarded and gay and I don't play them on release anyways.
 
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If you've done multiple ram sets now, I'd lean more towards the mobo at this point
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This is a memory problem (page fault). But if you've replaced multiple sticks you either have the worst luck ever or your mobo has a bad dimm slot
 
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mkopec said:
Yeah youre gonna pay a premium for a legacy board even if you can find one on ebay. Best is to just get a new one with new AMD chippage. If youre around a microcenter they have package deals for mop bo and ram. Shit like this... But they have tons of others...

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even if you have to drive a couple of hours its worth IMO. I drive like a hour to mine.
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I browse slick deals every so often for stuff just to get an idea on prices. Besides as mentioned looks like microcenter is the best normally. But even other places the best price on memory now is to buy an entire package combo, it's definetly the deal sweetner of coice.

If I had a microcenter close by (like I have anything close by lol) I would have maybe gotten a 7600x3d which is exclusive to microcenter.
 
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So suggestions on 32gb ram kit? I loathe trying to browse on my phone
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Something is not adding up. You have below 10000 MB/sec on your memory (top left). Can you check if you have put in the DIMMs in the correct sockets for this motherboard? If my memory serves me, it should be at least above 30000 MB/s

Check the manual, some motherboards with 4 sockets want the DIMMs to be placed in that order: B -> D -> A -> C
 
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Neranja said:
Something is not adding up. You have below 10000 MB/sec on your memory (top left). Can you check if you have put in the DIMMs in the correct sockets for this motherboard?

Check the manual, some motherboards with 4 sockets want the DIMMs to be placed in that order: B -> D -> A -> C
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Yes manual wanted slot 2 primary, or 2,4, or for 4 sticks all 4. I did notice the values were odd
 
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Furry said:
Wasn't ASUS getting shit on around here? I went gigabyte with my newest mobo. Thing is a fucking tank that weighs like 10x my last mobo. I could beat someone to death with it pretty sure. No regrets.
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FWIW ASUS will never get another penny from me. They build shit , they don't support the shit they do build, and they blame the customer instead of supporting their shit.

In other words ,they got their bad reputation the old fashioned way, they earned it.
 
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If there is ANY issue with hardware you want to go through the vendor asap. Better to replace with a completely different unit than deal with manufacturers and trying to prove a faulty unit to customer service while dealing with RMA procedures.

That's a main reason people still purchase from Best Buy, far easier to do returns to/through them.
 
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Yes manual wanted slot 2 primary, or 2,4, or for 4 sticks all 4. I did notice the values were odd
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Yeah the bandwidth is super low, but the 2132 mt/s speed is within range for DDR4. I wonder if memtest is running at the slowest speeds for stability rather than stock? I'd be more concerned with pass/fail than memory bandwidth and speed though.

Regardless, since it's your second kit of memory on the same rig and giving the same crashing behavior, appears the CPU memory controller is faulty, or something is up with the actual DIMM slots. Good suggestions from other posters regarding new cpu/mobo/ram combos.
 
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As the picture above shows, Dell uses genuine Amphenol metal fittings to make sure the 12V-2x6 connector is completely fixed in place, unable to accidentally come loose. Amphenol is one of the world's biggest manufacturers of interconnect products. The cable actually plugging into this female connector isn't even a native 16-pin one; rather, it's an adapter that terminates in 2x standard 8-pin PCIe plugs.
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Would this be considered appropriate or drastic measures?
 
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I honestly don't know if even that's good enough.

It's not just that the connector needs to stay mated to the video card, the individual wires need to stay properly mated to the connector. I'm not convinced that cage would block you from snagging _a_ wire and pulling it away from the connector, inviting disaster.

Frankly, I don't think I am going to touch another 12VHPWR product until their cards have not just per-pin monitoring, but actively use that pin feedback to shut off the card before runaway if necessary.
 
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Some thoughts:

-A shame we didn't get the symbol files and get on Discord and look at the memory dumps when you were having these blue screens. Now its seems pretty obvious that its memory controller, which is in the CPU in Intel 12th gen.

-For my 2 cents, it would definitely be worth the money to go with an AM5/7800X3D or 9800X3D/32GB combo; it was better from a price perspective I guess last summer but the combo prices don't see too outrageous even now.

- I appreciate Furry's comments but its Nvidia with the Driver issues these days, particularly the last 6-9 months. With what they have done to gamers and the market, out of spite and principle I can't imagine buy one now ever again. It would need to be something fantastic and compelling.

- I know Asus has issues several years ago with Customer Service but I liked their MB better this time. I have been Gigabyte uber alles forever but I didn't like their boards as much.

-The 12v connector is not stable or safe enough for me personally to endorse, although if you never touch your equipment, I guess it might be safe enough. Seemingly millions use it without burning up their rings but its not a chance I would take.
 
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Im just glad I got sick of my old system last summer, when the prices were still down for all the components especially RAM and GPU. I think I got my 9070xt for like $600.
 
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