NVidia GeForce RTX 50x0 cards - 70% performance increase, but AI > you

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Everyone knows the winning move is gambling instead of investing. :emoji_smile:
I live where booze, pot, prostitution, and gambling are legal and I do none of it.
I was killing time one evening when we were waiting for my in-laws to meet us for dinner and I put $1 in a video poker machine. I doubled it and took it out. My wife gave me shit about it so I put my now $2 in and won $8. Cashed out then. No rush from gambling and I work too hard to give money away. Hell I even put a pic of my 'big winnings' on FB.
 

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I live where booze, pot, prostitution, and gambling are legal and I do none of it.
I was killing time one evening when we were waiting for my in-laws to meet us for dinner and I put $1 in a video poker machine. I doubled it and took it out. My wife gave me shit about it so I put my now $2 in and won $8. Cashed out then. No rush from gambling and I work too hard to give money away. Hell I even put a pic of my 'big winnings' on FB.
Just a joke. I don't drink. I am retired at 55 besides health problems I would be retired now anyway. Mostly due to gambling, not the kind sitting in a casino. Buying stuff that can have zero value for some time or none at all forever. Then having it pay off largely. A lot of stuff is gambling without being the tradition sense of betting on a card game or sports game and such. The most I've ever gambled in a traditional sense is maybe $10.

Of the opnion some small business operations are gambling in a way, not tons of people doing research and investors to pump money in. But a single person gambling their idea may work.
 

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while its not exactly lizard people own the world kinda conspiracy, there does seem to be a general hard push by big companies - google, microsoft, nvidia, amazon, etc - to get people to only use phones and cloud based compute, so they control every aspect of your digital life. driving people away from high compute devices to dumb screens has a lot of advantages for evil tech assholes, and lets them insert themselves in every step that can't easily be circumvented anymore. it helps governments too so they have no incentive to investigate.

younger people have been brought up this way too, so they don't see anything wrong with giving up personal info, letting random companies know all their info, being served ads everywhere, making everything a sub service, not owning anything, etc.

I don't think you need a more sinister explanation here than 'money'. Why sell someone something when you can rent them something indefinitely instead ?
 

Borzak

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Lot of shit with subs now. I was looking for a program to control fan speed and LEDs in a computer. One of them the LED part was free but the fan control was a monthly sub. Umm no.
 
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M Power

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i hope this is true


"AI is about to die" simply because of ChatGPT is a stupid take. Also, I'd bet more that Google's new AI compression has more to do with dying RAM prices than ChatGPT. I've never had a Twitter / X account but it seems whenever people post these hot takes from them they are always shit. Makes me wonder why people still go to the site.
 

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The strangest aspect is im working in the industry that makes those chips/silicon for RAM and they are very slow. Im having a hard time understanding why we are so slow when the demand is so high. Something isn't adding up to some extent but im not sure what it is.
I’ve read that by the time manufacturing is ramped up to meet the demand, the demand may no longer be there. But I’m not sure that’s correct.
 

M Power

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I’ve read that by the time manufacturing is ramped up to meet the demand, the demand may no longer be there. But I’m not sure that’s correct.
All of these tech companies buy in advance so if they already ordered then demand will always be known. It's not likely they have a ton of extra stock or anything. I guess the factories could slow down if demand is lower but they'd just lay people off I imagine.
 
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All of these tech companies buy in advance so if they already ordered then demand will always be known. It's not likely they have a ton of extra stock or anything. I guess the factories could slow down if demand is lower but they'd just lay people off I imagine.
Which we know they 100% have no issue laying people off, despite record profits.
 

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Corporations are not there to employ people. They are there to make money for share/stake holders. If they want otherwise go to work for a private company or become self employed. Sucks, but that is the way things work and have for a very long time.

If corporations couold make the same profit with a lot less people, they would be gone in a beart beat. Assuming people kept buying their product after mass layoffs.
 
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I’ve read that by the time manufacturing is ramped up to meet the demand, the demand may no longer be there. But I’m not sure that’s correct.
Demand is pretty accurately predicted years in advance. Big companies like Apple will buy a year's worth of production up front. Things like AI booms and global pandemics are not factored in. As such, they keep the supply fairly inelastic, because the majority of the time they barely make money.

Fabs take years and billions of dollars to build. No one is going to rush out and throw up a fab for demand that may or may not be there when it comes online. They will build them according to projections, but not for temporary run ups in demand.

Not quite the same thing, but Toyota side steps production interruptions by requiring suppliers to keep x_months worth of inventory on hand and ready to ship. Nearly every other company has Just In Time delivery from the moment it is made to when it is installed. Toyota outsources the cost of that burden to its suppliers, yet still enjoys the benefits of JIT. JIT for Me, but Not for Thee.

Hell, at one point, Apple was fronting the cost of new fabs so they could suck up all the production capacity. TSMC was a small player in manufacturing and Apple single handedly made them #1 with investment and orders.
 
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Sure I would. Sure WE would!
anyone buying a $10k graphics card would. although if they're basically trying to LLM your graphics real time, vram might be more important than gpu speed, making the 6000 line more the model, and it's much better on power consumption, especially compared to running 3x 5090s to the 1 6000 worth of vram.
 

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anyone buying a $10k graphics card would. although if they're basically trying to LLM your graphics real time, vram might be more important than gpu speed, making the 6000 line more the model, and it's much better on power consumption, especially compared to running 3x 5090s to the 1 6000 worth of vram.
I don’t want my graphics generated by AI in real time.

I want my graphics to be consistent every time. I want the world to be rendered by the game engine.
 
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I don’t want my graphics generated by AI in real time.

I want my graphics to be consistent every time. I want the world to be rendered by the game engine.
sounds like it's time to dust off those eq cds!
also, the way the game industry is going, ai might be the only path to anything (new) worth playing soon
 
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It is because they have been "burnt" in the past, is why they are afraid of ramping up production.

It is not AI, its a fucking chat-bot, that has a few very good uses but cannot be used as everyone thinks it can.

Fabrication companies only see this as a "fad" right, as the bubble is already popping, they have made the right move.
 
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It is because they have been "burnt" in the past, is why they are afraid of ramping up production.

It is not AI, its a fucking chat-bot, that has a few very good uses but cannot be used as everyone thinks it can.

Fabrication companies only see this as a "fad" right, as the bubble is already popping, they have made the right move.
I used to think like this until I started using Claude 4.6. the game has changed
 
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velk

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The game hasn't changed. There are just more people training the models while paying to do it.

Nah, the 'it's just a chatbot!!' is not even remotely accurate. In the coding 'game', it is now a fantastically valuable tool.

Is it replacing expert humans ? Not yet at least, but most people drastically underestimate the amount of expertise in any given field.

Is it replacing offshore developers ? I get an awful lot of A:B comparisons for exactly this case, and I'd say it's in the top 70% already, at a tiny fraction of the cost. If you are a junior dev doing contract work, it's time to start looking for a new skillset.
 
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Wasnt suggesting it was a chatbot, just pointing out that it hasnt really changed, its just getting trained even faster and being given even larger data sets.