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I think this came will be the second coming of Juuses

MMORPG dev blog on their climate and atmosphere systems

We are planning for 6 Extreme Climates at launch: Frigid, Scorching, Toxic, Anaerobic, Pressure and Windshear.

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How complex can it really be? At best, it'll be the kind of thing where you know certain zones to use certain spells and understand it will be limited or people will complain. At worst, it'll be the kind of thing where you'll be looking for group and have to pass a gear check for environmental shit.

I'd rather they just tried again with Vanguards resistance/opportunity style system and made it actually work this time instead of trying something completely new they won't get implemented fully.

a_skeleton_02_sl said:

As much as planning your gear/abilities for the climate you are hunting in gives me a RP boner I hate they are focusing on this fluff/hype shit instead of core things.

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Exactly. Give usONEclimate, but get the gameplay right.

arallu_sl said:

MMORPG dev blog on their climate and atmosphere systems

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Totally shocked they are still working? on this game

Well seeing as Pantheon killed EQN, of course they are working on it.

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climate stuff is still something I need to hear more about, I see how it can be used as a wall to access content, and tbh, i'm ok with that route outside of keying but it really should have more depth to it. Pantheon on everyone!

Gamma Rays_sl said:

Exactly. Give usONEclimate, but get the gameplay right.

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They gave like a 2 hours video of the core things.

Theres still a lot of people out there who are only drawn to new ideas and who know nothing about classic mmo gameplay. Until they actually play it, they will just think, ew its old. Articles about stuff like climates and the new stuff will attract the rest of the potential audience, and lets face it, should Pantheon launch, all of us will be there regardless. They don't have to sell us on the idea (they only have to prove they can make it a reality).

Bottom line is that novelty shit like climate stuff won't mean anything if the basic game isn't fun (like lots of people are saying).

On the other hand, they need innovative features too. They have to have examples for the question "what makes Pantheon different from other mmos?"

So, while I personally don't give a damn about climate stuff, I understand their need to try out new and innovative design ideas.

Dullahan_sl said:

and lets face it, should Pantheon launch, all of us will be there regardless.

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nah. This type of game isn't for adults with social/family/work lives. We aren't children anymore (mostly).

I mean, it'll prolly take another 30 years to reach launch, so you should be retired and have tons of free time by then.

Hateyou_sl said:

The problem is Brad fails to realize that people our age (30+ for the most part) that want to relive their "good ole EQ days" just can't anymore, and that kids that are now the age we were back then don't give a fuck about this type of game. There just isn't a market big enough for this. It was a right time right place situation.

If they are happy bringing in a small steady income by filling a niche market, then if they ever release, they'll probably be fine. The problem is Brad is probably incapable of feeling successful at that level, so he will somehow implode the game/company.

It'll be fun to watch, whichever way it ends up going.

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The popularity of classic servers for both EQ and WoW indicates that there may be a much bigger market for the old school rule sets they represent than anyone realizes. BDO taps into that a little bit.

But until somebody actually makes a game that satisfies that itch, it's all conjecture. Personally I think it would be very successful if done right, especially for younger players who actually have the time to waste. Whether or not Brad can make that game is the question I have.

Grim1_sl said:

The popularity of classic servers for both EQ and WoW indicates that there may be a much bigger market the old school rule sets they represent than anyone realizes. BDO taps into that a little bit.

But until somebody actually makes a game that satisfies that itch, it's all conjecture. Personally I think it would be very successful if done right, especially for younger players who actually have the time to waste. Whether or not Brad can make that game is the question I have.

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Exactly. The simple fact that p99 and ED exist and are popular says otherwise. I am certainly not suggesting that it won't irk me that I would be in the 'lol level 20 after 3 months of play' crowd, but after 10 years of shitty games where you reach level cap in a month and then quit because there is nothing to do, I'll take that that option if the game is decent. A big 'if' to be sure, but I am cautiously optimistic after their live demo and based on what their 'vision' is.

We will see if they run out of money before they get anywhere near done with this thing though... they are moving glacially and I can't imagine too many are throwing cash at the pre-order because... well.. Brad.