Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO
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Tuco
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By the 4th day, things tend to really slow down on Kickstarter. VR will have to add some new tiers, add some special add-ons, and/or do a big interview someplace heavily trafficked in order to get back to the numbers we saw in the first three days.
zzeris
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Convo
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EQ1 factions were all about every action having a consequence even one that might not impact you until many levels later. You just do not see games which allow the players to make a decision who's consequence isn't directly applicable to the immediate situation. When you killed an NPC had read the list of who thinks better or worse of you sometimes you just scratched your head when the names were completely unknown to you. Short term actions having long term effects is brilliant.
I do think however that some (not all) faction standings should be fixable by some means though repairing ones horrible standings with a given faction should be a time consuming and difficult process. After all, you're trying to convince a group that all the slaughter and mayhem you've committed against them for years should be forgiven. That is one tall order.
Pasteton
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The designed downtime worries me some. I always want to punch people in the face that use this word, but I have to say I think the downtime is something that has to arise organically from the game world and not be a heavy handed implementation.
The good way to put in downtime is increasing the stealth elements of gameplay in the 'player versus world' concept. In other words requiring timing and care in splitting mobs, avoiding unnecessary encounters, and laying out a plan of attack (in other words, a period of 'mentation' that encourages social aspects and also will be a nice break from the general repetitiveness of combat).
Downtime should also be a negotiable element, one which can be chipped away at by the right group who knows what they're doing. This will happen naturally if downtime is implemented in the above manner.
Bad downtime would be stupid shit like incredibly and needlessly long recast/reuse timers on important combat or healing spells, or other artificial design implementations which are clearly the only to forcibly prolong your downtime, and which cannot be avoided by any means.
The good way to put in downtime is increasing the stealth elements of gameplay in the 'player versus world' concept. In other words requiring timing and care in splitting mobs, avoiding unnecessary encounters, and laying out a plan of attack (in other words, a period of 'mentation' that encourages social aspects and also will be a nice break from the general repetitiveness of combat).
Downtime should also be a negotiable element, one which can be chipped away at by the right group who knows what they're doing. This will happen naturally if downtime is implemented in the above manner.
Bad downtime would be stupid shit like incredibly and needlessly long recast/reuse timers on important combat or healing spells, or other artificial design implementations which are clearly the only to forcibly prolong your downtime, and which cannot be avoided by any means.
Gaige
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Has anyone talked about quest delivery yet? I really liked in EverQuest when people would have to use /say to talk to the NPCs. To me it just felt more engaging then seeing a bubble pop up with task over NPC heads. "Blah Blah TL;DR Kill 10 Wolves". Not as fun for me as npcs randomly saying "I really hope thoseWolvesdon't come back!"
zzeris
King Turd of Shit Hill
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Talking about factions, I agree that the original EQ got it better than any game since. I loved the changing of 4-6 factions depending on who you kill. With some of the kills, you had no idea if that kill was a good or bad thing in the end. It adds to the game when factions aren't black and white and your actions could sour your relationship with one side of an relationship without damaging the other. For instance, the wood elves would hate you while the Order of Fansy would still consider you neutrally. Becoming an outlawed exile from your own people was a very good option that added to world building.
Not just using /say, but actually coming up with the key phrase to ask. Though to be honest most were triggered by using the 5 W words of who, what, where, why and when. Mostly 'what X' worked. But still, it was far better than just spamming the enter key to blitz through bubble chat you cared dick about because it would all end up in your quest journal anyway. Which, I hope, does not end up in Pantheon. Well, at least not an automatic quest journal capturing all the quest details but rather a notebook where we fill it in ourselves. Yeah, glutton for punishment here.
zzeris
King Turd of Shit Hill
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Someone is needing some attention right now. Here ya go buddy! I just threw you a bone.
Cinge
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I disagree, that wasn't engaging, just another tediousness. Yes quest interaction could be made more immersive, but not going through the 5 Ws with bracketed words.
Quineloe
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Lasch
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Question about Kickstarter in general. The money I pledge, does it check to see if I am capable of paying that amount prior to the ending date? If not, what stops everyone from pledging insane amounts and then lowering at the last min? Sounds like a good plan if you want to get people to jump on board. The closer it gets the more people will jump on the gravy train.