Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

Merlin_sl

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Brad should cut you a check Troy.
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No shit. The dude is doing the work one of the half dozen devs should be doing on the kickstarter. Props to you bro.
 

Aradune_sl

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No. Significantly more important for Visionary to hire its CEO/Project Manager. Do that now and you will save yourself years of trouble. You and your team are great designers (even silius did a good job on vg crafting) but you are not project managers.

The secret to success is knowing what you can and can not do. And acting on that knowledge.
I'm not disagreeing on the CEO thing, which is in progress. And pardon me if this sounds defensive, but I was Project Manager on EQ 1 and that game shipped on-time and in pretty good shape (there we connectivity issues and we didn't have enough bandwidth going into San Diego at launch, but we fixed that right away). I did make mistakes on VG, but there were also other factors involved (regime change at MSFT, SOE not being able to fund us the extra 6 months we needed, etc.)
 

popsicledeath

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Brad has responded to some posts! Time for all the bi-polar nerds in this forum to turn their frowns upside down and start suckling again! I swear the mood in this thread goes up and down faster than a bad porno BJ.

I've upped my pledge, yadda yadda. They've made a few missteps. They're answering some questions (even some tough and/or dickish ones about SOE that would usually get ignored). They're adjusting on the fly. My current hype status: good enough.
 

Xaxius

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Brad has responded to some posts! Time for all the bi-polar nerds in this forum to turn their frowns upside down and start suckling again! I swear the mood in this thread goes up and down faster than a bad porno BJ.
Buckle up, Buttercup. It's going to be at least 3 years of this.
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AmberT._sl

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No shit. The dude is doing the work one of the half dozen devs should be doing on the kickstarter. Props to you bro.
I concur. I've never seen a fan work as hard has Troy has over the last 30 hours. If you can't cut him a check, Brad, at least give him an extra backer reward. He's been posting like a fiend over at pjpantheon.com too btw.
 

tad10

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I'm not disagreeing on the CEO thing, which is in progress. And pardon me if this sounds defensive, but I was Project Manager on EQ 1 and that game shipped on-time and in pretty good shape (there we connectivity issues and we didn't have enough bandwidth going into San Diego at launch, but we fixed that right away). I did make mistakes on VG, but there were also other factors involved (regime change at MSFT, SOE not being able to fund us the extra 6 months we needed, etc.)
You're looking at it the wrong way. It's like how it is considered good business practice to split the CEO and Chairman of the Board positions. You should not be both Lead Designer/CCO and Project Manager/Producer because those two positions are at cross purposes. The Designer wants to spend money and the Producer wants to conserve it.

More importantly, and directly, because of VGs shape at release people currently trust you to design, but not to manage. You'll do your kickstarter favors by emphasizing someone else besides the chair is running the company while you focus on making the best game you can.
 

Aradune_sl

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I concur. I've never seen a fan work as hard has Troy has over the last 30 hours. If you can't cut him a check, Brad, at least give him an extra backer reward. He's been posting like a fiend over at pjpantheon.com too btw.
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bigdogchris_sl

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Unity basically lets you select "Target Platform: Linux x64" ... and compile. Of course there would be bugs, but Unity does a lot the work for you. When they say it's possible, they mean it. Many, many, many Unity games are on all three major platforms for a reason.
 

LordLime_sl

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The reason we're not announcing Linux is there are so many variations and we're concerned it would be very difficult to offer tech support.

But time could change that.
Always do what Valve is doing, pick one popular distro (Unbuntu) and offer official support for it.
If the user is running it on any other distro, support can't help officially.
 
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The reason we're not announcing Linux is there are so many variations and we're concerned it would be very difficult to offer tech support.

But time could change that.
At least you're doing this game on Unity which means there's at least thepossibilitythere could be a Linux version someday.
 

Wystler_sl

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Then we need to work on that. The game is a mix of EQ 1, VG, and some cool modern ideas... overall more EQ 1 than the others, though that's in the eye of the beholder (great game, pardon the pun).
Really glad to read this as early EQ1 was my preference between the two but I liked them both before big changes. A good mix will make for a great game.
 

Convo

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This thread is great man! So much flavor to it! I wish I wasn't working so I could keep up.

Thanks for the update Brad. Not everyone hit the panic button but I'm glad you guys are responding to the KS feedback. This is going to take all of us the next few years so these relations are good! We are your alpha testers and we began yesterday. Use us as you need.
 

Muligan

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Brad,

You mentioned this was a lot for 10 guys to handle. Not to get too personal or deep but i'm not understanding the internal structure here? I've done a lot of consulting, programming, tech work in general pro bono but these guys have left games and not to mention being their livelihood. How is this working? You mentioned looking into a CEO. Several posts, including my personal opinion here, lends to needing a PR or Community Manager. How can you hire? Who's paying these salaries? How is this making it off the ground?

I was involved in a Web Design firm (venture) years ago that I wanted to play with on the side so I invested, did some work, and hoped to see some return on the investment. It did eventually but it took time. Naturally, there was much more involved but that's the short version of the story. The reason I share, it would help me put into perspective what you guys are working with and possibly even sympathize with this group's working condition. Typically, I would not be so interested but as a potential investor, I like context and context clarifies expectations.