Watching Q&A #6 and I just had a brilliant idea!
They need to add a tier to the KS called "Buy Brad a New Shirt". I think it'd sell out.
They need to add a tier to the KS called "Buy Brad a New Shirt". I think it'd sell out.
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I saw that and felt terrible. The guy really is broke, he only owns one shirt. Maybe Salim can loan him one of his shirts? I just upped my pledge so the dude can buy a new shirt.
Some good ideas. I'm not a fan of exp. boosts of any kind, but I'd go for a special bag, or maybe a bigger bank vault at higher tiers. I agree though, that they need to add some little lures to some of the tiers.
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LOl, didnt you guys ever think that they filmed all those videos in one day and are just showing us peacemeal? Hello! Do you honestly think that they record a 5 min video everyday?
They probably sat down and recorded like a hour or two of footage and then they edit the shit together to make little snippets.
They probably sat down and recorded like a hour or two of footage and then they edit the shit together to make little snippets.
In a twitch interview yesterday, it was implied Salim also has a limited selection of functional shirts.
No shit, but then that would pretty much make the joke obsolete wouldn't it? I reject your reality and substitute my own.
This incoming in 15 days.
Trials of Ascension
on the plus side we have 400 more backers than ever,jane.
Trials of Ascension
on the plus side we have 400 more backers than ever,jane.
What?! no way! Then why is he asking for us to keep sending in questions if the videos are already made?! OH GAWD! ANOTHER LIE!
/rage quit
arallu
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They need a hook like that, so first-time viewers (despite the KS page itself) see the rewards and impulse buys. Pathfinder kind of did that with their daily deals.
It will still need a combination of more backers + ppl upping pledges. I know they are probably going to have add-on's as they asked for suggestions in the KS comments last night.
KS-only rewards, digital add-ons like a lorebook, founder's backpack and food/drink, etc.
Hell twist the names on obvious EQ / VG related items as a nod: manashpere, fungal shirt, mask of the beguiler, chainmail of the swamp, etc.
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That was a solid read...if I had pledged there I would re-pledge after reading that.
What platform are you targeting with that game? Ipads? lol
Shitty ass graphics, and shitty ass animations.
Hire some motherfucking artists you nerds.
popsicledeath
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Aw, damn, missed more discussions on how obvious it is they shit the bed on the Kickstarter.
People arguing that they need better higher tiers or better lower tiers are wrong. They need both. People coming into a project like this will get excited, mentally formulate a budget range that they feel is worth their excitement, and then find something in that range they feel is worth their budgeted spending. They needed a cheap buy-in option for people who were only ever going to get a cheap, basic pre-order anyhow, and likewise better higher tiers for people who were looking to spend that much anyhow. There are plenty of exceptions, I'm sure, where people were so enticed or excited they completely changed their initial idea of what the project was worth, but exceptions are a nice bonus, not something to be counted on.
I still feel they're missing most of the important messages that could get this funded. Particularly how this KS could be all about a group of old-school devs who were sick of working on projects that become so controlled by corporations and suits that the games became soulless and ones they were working on but wouldn't have really even wanted to play. That's something that resonates far beyond EQ fanboys, to gamers who have noticed games being dumbed-down or 'streamlined,' to people who know what it's like working in circumstances they're no longer passionate about all because some suit claims to know best, to people who are fans of passionate, artistic projects by people chasing a dream, to people who simply want to stick it to the man.
Instead, they're doing very little to shape a message that resonates with gamers or people in general, and are only barely getting their message to resonate with the fans who never really needed to be convinced.
People arguing that they need better higher tiers or better lower tiers are wrong. They need both. People coming into a project like this will get excited, mentally formulate a budget range that they feel is worth their excitement, and then find something in that range they feel is worth their budgeted spending. They needed a cheap buy-in option for people who were only ever going to get a cheap, basic pre-order anyhow, and likewise better higher tiers for people who were looking to spend that much anyhow. There are plenty of exceptions, I'm sure, where people were so enticed or excited they completely changed their initial idea of what the project was worth, but exceptions are a nice bonus, not something to be counted on.
I still feel they're missing most of the important messages that could get this funded. Particularly how this KS could be all about a group of old-school devs who were sick of working on projects that become so controlled by corporations and suits that the games became soulless and ones they were working on but wouldn't have really even wanted to play. That's something that resonates far beyond EQ fanboys, to gamers who have noticed games being dumbed-down or 'streamlined,' to people who know what it's like working in circumstances they're no longer passionate about all because some suit claims to know best, to people who are fans of passionate, artistic projects by people chasing a dream, to people who simply want to stick it to the man.
Instead, they're doing very little to shape a message that resonates with gamers or people in general, and are only barely getting their message to resonate with the fans who never really needed to be convinced.
Wasn't it said they had three artists? So what have all three been doing for six months? haha
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This is a good point and it should of been a part of the introduction videos. Kind of what the planescape dude did with his videos.
Convo
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Lol I couldn't take it no more.. I poured my frustrations in an email to Ben.
I feel like some of their better writing fell short for lack of a visual.
$10 SBS
$15 Dragoon Dirk
$50 Stein of Moggok
$75 Rubicite
$125 FBR
$500 Yak
$800 Yaks
$1000 GEB
$2,000 GBS
$5,000 Guise of the deceiver
$7,500 FBSS
$10,000 Fungi tunic
$100,000 Manastone
That could get the game fully funded.
He can always nerf them later. Fuck people who buy loot!
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that game looks freaking awesome, I may have to pledge to get the beta/release of that. Also really good read on the ToA thing. You always feel better giving money to someone who looks like they are passionate and hungry and grateful, rather than to people like Brad who gives off a "you owe me this, I don't have to prove anything!" vibe.
Can someone explain to me why Pathfinder Online and ToA aren't good enough, and why Pantheon is the "only hope" for MMO fans as people like Dumar like to say?
popsicledeath
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While rewards and tiers are all important, I feel like focusing on that as a fix is like the failed restaurant owners on Kitchen Nightmares who kept thinking if they just raised the prices they'd make more money, or if they added more items to the menu more people would start coming in. That's not really how it works.
First, the KS had to give the viewer a reason to pledge, which they've consistently failed to do. I think they've gotten plenty of views. I think the tiers needed work, but there was plenty of tiers that were 'good enough' for people to go for, or do like many have done and pledge the amount they're comfortable with and then keep an eye out for new tiers in that range that are more enticing.
They simply aren't giving anyone a reason to pledge. Everything they're doing has been focused on securing funding from existing or easy-to-get fans of the project. Whether intentional or not, everything they're doing is to make people who are already pledged happy. That's great, but they're already happy. And nothing would make them happier than to see MORE people pledging.
And I think Ben is a cool guy and doing a good job interacting with the community, but it's been clear they have no actual PR guy, marketing guy, or business guy. Because at some point, if they did, someone would have created a plan, or at least happened into results, that closer resembled a proposal or even campaign.
I think I said it before but I literally feel this project could have been funded if they'd have turned the 'idea' over to a group of English 102 students at a local University learning for the first time about how to do group projects and present ideas. Pro tip: if you're proposing a project to implement a commuter bus system to/from local towns and you don't yet have a bus, or even a reason to, you don't spend all your time talking about buses.
First, the KS had to give the viewer a reason to pledge, which they've consistently failed to do. I think they've gotten plenty of views. I think the tiers needed work, but there was plenty of tiers that were 'good enough' for people to go for, or do like many have done and pledge the amount they're comfortable with and then keep an eye out for new tiers in that range that are more enticing.
They simply aren't giving anyone a reason to pledge. Everything they're doing has been focused on securing funding from existing or easy-to-get fans of the project. Whether intentional or not, everything they're doing is to make people who are already pledged happy. That's great, but they're already happy. And nothing would make them happier than to see MORE people pledging.
And I think Ben is a cool guy and doing a good job interacting with the community, but it's been clear they have no actual PR guy, marketing guy, or business guy. Because at some point, if they did, someone would have created a plan, or at least happened into results, that closer resembled a proposal or even campaign.
I think I said it before but I literally feel this project could have been funded if they'd have turned the 'idea' over to a group of English 102 students at a local University learning for the first time about how to do group projects and present ideas. Pro tip: if you're proposing a project to implement a commuter bus system to/from local towns and you don't yet have a bus, or even a reason to, you don't spend all your time talking about buses.