Serious question, anyone remember the mmo called Dawn? Which will come out first: Pantheon or Dawn?
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TrollfaceDeux
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Evernothing
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So my charge back was successful. Brad tried to argue it and to quote the CC company - "The information the other party sent us really didn't substantiate deciding in his favor and the information you provided was exemplary." Brad's argument was the Kickstarter FAQ point about "Does an MMO take 800K to make?" Nothing about risks, or all sales final etc. It was pretty weak. I wonder how many others have done charge backs... He could be more strapped for cash than we think.
DickTrickle
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Convo: I did then he disputed it so this is the aftermath of his dispute of my charge back.
This is what he sent verbatim as proof that I should not get a refund. Note there is no link provided to where you can find this FAQ statement and also he is using Kickstarter as his prime source of context. I sent in among other things Kickstarters FAQ with screens and links where to find them that show Kickstarters are ALL OR NOTHING and that no one should be charged if the project fails. I also added the screen of the failed notice of the KS. I countered a few other potential arguments he might invent as well.
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Subject: crowdfunding - NO refunds!
This money this person is trying to get back is from a crowdfunding project for a start-up company to get us to the point where we could attract larger investors. They should NOT get their money back -- they knew the risk when they donated the money. The project has slowed down and we are still looking for accredited investors at this point, but in no way should donations via crowdfunding be refunded. -Brad McQuaid, CEO Visionary Realms --
From our FAQ: Doesn't it take more than $800K to make an MMO?
Yes it does. Our intent for this Kickstarter is first to prove that there's enough of a demand for a group focused game that believes in the experience of the game instead of handholding, and to get the ball rolling on development. If we can get to the goal we will have proved that and will have enough to get this game started and be able to get our studio set up and operational. If we only get to the goal and little more, then we will visit other funding opportunities but first and foremost we wanted to make it possible to be completely crowdfunded so that you, the players, have more to do with what foes into the game than other powers would should we need to turn to those options later.
My guess is that Brad is having high level design discussions in Brigadoon with Donny Most as that would explain the decade long absence after VG and the past week or so.
Brad is by his own admission distancing himself from the project. He said he was fishing for a CEO and that he just wanted to be in the vapid position of chief creative officer.
Those on the project like the Cult Family and others see it as an opportunity to take the reins to a certain degree, though I will laugh if the person selected to be the CEO comes out and removes every last one of them from the project and does their own thing otherwise. I doubt that though as I think Brad will find some schmuck who is just as blind as the rest but with more money that they'll put into the project: essentially some one crazier than the rest of the crazies.
All in all its just one large do nothing machine.
Those on the project like the Cult Family and others see it as an opportunity to take the reins to a certain degree, though I will laugh if the person selected to be the CEO comes out and removes every last one of them from the project and does their own thing otherwise. I doubt that though as I think Brad will find some schmuck who is just as blind as the rest but with more money that they'll put into the project: essentially some one crazier than the rest of the crazies.
All in all its just one large do nothing machine.
iannis
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At this point isn't the Cult Family the entirety of the project?
It sounds like the "mods" are too busy canabilizing each other to be involved in any important way. The Christian Mother with The Stripper Name sounds like the only actual asset the "project" even HAS.
You can shit on her all you want for all the obvious reasons... but her resume isn't much really leaner than Brads.
It sounds like the "mods" are too busy canabilizing each other to be involved in any important way. The Christian Mother with The Stripper Name sounds like the only actual asset the "project" even HAS.
You can shit on her all you want for all the obvious reasons... but her resume isn't much really leaner than Brads.
Not really if this complaint post last November on Facebook about Landmark by her is any indication:
https://www.facebook.com/EverQuestLi...3?stream_ref=5
Laurene Wells:
"Was interested, but this kind of expensive. Some of us are suffering under massive inflation and recession repercussions. And some of us don't want to play alone, we want to play with our family. To buy 6 entry packs, or even 2, is cost prohibitive."
So even then a mere 200 bucks or so was considered by her to be "cost prohibitive". In direct contradiction though, she evidently "bought" into Brad's mess months later.