Path of Exile 2

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Arbitrary

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I still remain dubious about asynchronous trade in PoE1 but after running through a league in which I made numerous alts my positioning is softening. Trying to buy gear for characters that were doing rather specific things (extra lucky block Gladiator, Mamba Pathfinder, pile of abyss jewel Light Poacher stuff as examples) was annoying enough that I abandoned most of them. Trying to buy a dozen abyss jewels that say most of the things I want using the existing system fucking sucks. Trying to buy all the clusters (and more jewels) for Mamba fucking sucks. Mercenaries make the campaign take as long as it takes to run from one area to another but spending my hard-earned currency on them is such a pain in the dick that they all ended up on the shelf. If trade wasn't dick I'd have doing multiple respecs to try other shit but as it stands I can't be bothered. Playing semi-SSF buying only a few things a league was an entirely different experience than trying to buy a dozen items at once. A bad experience.

I said before that PoE2 was a great place to give it a go. It's a new game and it's still in beta so go hog wild trying things out. I'm hoping it goes great.
 
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mkopec

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The problem with any trades in game, whether auction or face to face, is that it invites RMT which plague these games. It has plagued POE1 for years. With offline Auction house its going to be worse. Also with an offline AH you bet your ass markets will be controlled by the few. So again, they can profit from RMT. Players like you or I, no matter how hardcore, cannot compete with armies of China man running amok.
 

OU Ariakas

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I am actually shocked that they changed their stance on async trading/AH instead of doing the thing that was actually fun: Making crafting something that everyone could participate in and to stop worrying about the 1% of players that are going to craft the best shit and complain that they didn't get enough enjoyment out of the league.

The first iteration of Harvest that went core without the tedious gardening part was the absolute peak of crafting. The targeted exalts and more deterministic crafting made me want to participate like they have always claimed they want; I picked up bases that were relevant, ID them, and would save imperfect ones because I could turn them into projects. I spent 5x more time on that league than any other and they decided it was too powerful. Having the full crafting experience for a greatly expanded percentage of the player base was just too good in a world of "closer your eyes and slam." I will never, ever understand why they couldn't just tweak the costs on those crafts or make them SSF only. There were ways to balance it other than 'too powerful, must remove becuase too many people have fun.'
 
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Pasteton

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I might have missed it , but did they talk about id the async stuff will work with live searches? Early in the league i usually have a buncha those running
 

elidib

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They didn't talk about it, but I didn't see a button on the in-game browser. It should work through the site though, the item is just listed like regular except instead of sending a whisper it has the "secure" button.
 

Tholan

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auction house is awesome. I hope they tie the number of items you can put in the AH with a gold upkeep so you can't have dedicated trade account, you must actually play the game
 
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Kirun

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I wish they'd tie the gold cost to a listing fee rather than a buying fee. It'd help reduce the amount of dog shit items listed.
 

Arbitrary

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I wish they'd tie the gold cost to a listing fee rather than a buying fee. It'd help reduce the amount of dog shit items listed.

Without bulk listing or quad tabs or bulk listed quad tabs at launch most people aren't going to be listing mass amounts of garbo.
 

Fogel

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Each item has to be individually priced and can't just be mass dumped into a 1 ex tab, and you're also limited by merchant tabs, so that should help with dog shit items
 

elidib

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Without bulk listing or quad tabs or bulk listed quad tabs at launch most people aren't going to be listing mass amounts of garbo.
Why do you think there won't be? you can convert your already-purchased premium tabs to merchant tabs.
 

Fogel

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Why do you think there won't be? you can convert your already-purchased premium tabs to merchant tabs.

Yes but you can't set the price by tab, each item has to be individually priced. So only the most die hard autists are going to be able to mass list crappy items, everyone else will just do it the old way.
 

Arbitrary

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Why do you think there won't be? you can convert your already-purchased premium tabs to merchant tabs.


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I didn't look to see if they were selling quad merchant tabs but even if you could buy them not being able to convert existing quads and not being able to bulk list with them is going to lower how much crap is on the exchange.

Something else to keep in mind is that a lot of people use bulk listed dump tabs to crowdsource pricing. While the old trade system is still in place the new system won't let you list things for sale and not actually sell them. I don't have a problem with people listing their trash mountain if I can actually pick out bargains for 1 ex instead of anything I message being relisted over and over until the messages stop coming in.
 

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I didn't look to see if they were selling quad merchant tabs but even if you could buy them not being able to convert existing quads and not being able to bulk list with them is going to lower how much crap is on the exchange.

Something else to keep in mind is that a lot of people use bulk listed dump tabs to crowdsource pricing. While the old trade system is still in place the new system won't let you list things for sale and not actually sell them. I don't have a problem with people listing their trash mountain if I can actually pick out bargains for 1 ex instead of anything I message being relisted over and over until the messages stop coming in.
Here’s how it’s going to happen, throw shit in a quad dump, flooded with messages, change price, price narrowed down, throw it in the merchant.
 
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jooka

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you can just search for instant buyout and never engage with the old system at all
 
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Deathwing

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Gold transaction cost + manual listing disincentivizes listing lower value items that dump tabs specialize in. You might be able to avoid the old system once you get above a certain price threshold.
 
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Arbitrary

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you can just search for instant buyout and never engage with the old system at all

Which is I think going to be the default for most players. Unless you're really in need of something specific that the insta market cannot provide a lot of us are not going to then comb through the old system at all.