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I put off watching the finale because everyone said it was so shit. My god they really saved the most boring episode for last, huh? Like, what the fuck even was that?

I also get that they're trying to tie this into some whole DC universe thing, but they probably shouldn't assume I know who or what any of this shit is. Like, I have no idea what a "meta human" is, but they just decided to throw that in randomly here at the end of this season like I watched some random shit movie that came out after the first season of this show.

Meta humans are legumers in this and the trump/luthorcorp want to deport them all.

Lol at the forum edit.
 

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So it met expectations or beyond?
In a season where nothing seems to actually happen? It fell way, way below expectations, even for this terrible season. A season where their superhero marksman doesn't once use his super power, a multiverse plotline amounts to nothing, and the main draw of the first season which was humor is dropped instead for all the characters being depressed assholes.

Someone else said it the other day, but this felt like they just pieced together a bunch of extra footage they had leftover and tried to make it seem related.

On the plus side, even if there's a season 3, after this disaster I can safely write it off completely.
 

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Peacemaker set up Lex Luthor working directly with the US Government to punish meta humans. And his crew kept getting more and more freedom as the show went on. That probably is important.
I hate the phrase "meta humans."

I know it's been used in the comics since 1989, but it's still silly.

It sounds like itd be fine for a scientific classification but not for every day vernacular. That 5'2 Cyborg latina lady is a meta human? Shes just got super-advanced prosthetics, essentially. She's very much a human, not a super powered person, any more than someone with a rocket launcher is a super powered person.

I remember Elon Musk being on Rogan's podcast back in like 2017/18 talking about what technically is a cyborg. If you use any technology to augment your body or processing, that would be technically a cyborg. The example he used was seeing glasses or using your phone to store data (such as calendar dates), and since you have a phone with you at all times, you're already a cyborg with an external port.

Technically clothing is technology to protect you from external environs, so I'm wondering if the threshold isn't necessary that you wear technology, or is apart of your normal body, but rather technology is used to outsource processing procedures (such as a pocket calculator).
 

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Another dumb thing was Gunn was hyping cameos and massive reveals and those turned out to be... Luthor and Salvation/Checkmate (the Deadpool cameo would have been cool but it was dead in the water many months ago). LOL. Unless you read the comics, you have no fucking idea of the significance of Checkmate or Salvation. If you just watched the show, you probably thought Checkmate was just the lame name of their business that looks to be ran like some dumb startup. And the whole idea of Salvation (prison for meta humans) was completely undercut by the same idea showing up in Superman. I've give him credit that he seems to actually be somewhat of a comic nerd but he has to translate that to the actual product aimed towards mass millions.
 

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i just wish james gunn had a better fetish than old rock bands nobody remembers. tarantino at least gives us feet pix of hotties, tons of directors have tits & ass fetishes, but all we got out of peacemaker is a long ass shitty music video on a boat

i guess gunn must have some cuck fetishes too given how many dudes his wife was banging in show. surprised they didn't do a It style team orgy or some equally stupid shit, although honestly Vigilante and Adabayo having sex would look HILARIOUS
 
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If you just watched the show, you probably thought Checkmate was just the lame name of their business that looks to be ran like some dumb startup.
Can confirm. I do think this.

I've give him credit that he seems to actually be somewhat of a comic nerd but he has to translate that to the actual product aimed towards mass millions.
I feel like to make a great adaption, take the best selling comics and just adapt that one:eek:ne (as best you can) into a movie. It worked for Sin City and 300.

Take The Dark Knight Returns, Under the Red Hood, The Court of Owls/City of Owls, Flashpoint, etc. Just take great comics and make them great movies. I think the issue is when they try to reinvent the wheel like what Zack Snyder did with DC or what Gunn is also doing with DC. At least we still have Matt Reeves' the Batman. I can live with the white mayor being put down and replaced by a strong independent woman thing. It's a flawed movie but it's at least better than whatever Marvel and Gunn are putting out (besides Deadpool).
 

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The other issue is trying to do the whole multiverse thing that has been played out for years, especially in comics related media. I mean even DC did it with the WB Crisis of Infinite Derps crossover series, complete with even an Earth X crossover arc. Such a shame, given all the potential here. So many more entertaining things they could have done with the series and they go straight to WB drama and multiverse shit. Should have put them up against some equally obscure and lame villians for a season in a team vs team fight. 11th Street Kids vs Kiteman and Pals would have killed it.
 
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The other issue is trying to do the whole multiverse thing that has been played out for years, especially in comics related media. I mean even DC did it with the WB Crisis of Infinite Derps crossover series, complete with even an Earth X crossover arc. Such a shame, given all the potential here. So many more entertaining things they could have done with the series and they go straight to WB drama and multiverse shit. Should have put them up against some equally obscure and lame villians for a season in a team vs team fight. 11th Street Kids vs Kiteman and Pals would have killed it.
I think they need to treat the "multiverse" the way comics have always treated other comics in the past (and when I say past I mean pre-Crisis in the comics. It's other stuff going on. And then very rarely you'd have a cameo "team up" between two characters. Somewhere around Crisis on Infinite Earths comics started the "big super over arching story" bit, which was a bad habit which movies seemed to have now embraced. Maybe you have a team comic like Justice League, but you do that once you have well established anchor characters.

Of course I say this and I still personally hope they do a full on 80s-90s style JL movie (which having Guy Gardner sets up).

What the movie execs want is a system where you HAVE to buy in fully, watch every movie, watch every show, etc. What they don't realize is that in comics there are a ton of people who love Batman and only read stuff he's in, or likewise for Superman, or Spiderman, or X-men. Not everything is an infinite never ending crossover. Make a good Superman movie without worrying about it leading into something else. Iron Man 1 was a great movie, and only the post credit scene teased anything else. Oh yeah, and ditch post credit scenes.

Damn, I'm all over the map tonight....
 

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What the movie execs want is a system where you HAVE to buy in fully, watch every movie, watch every show, etc. What they don't realize is that in comics there are a ton of people who love Batman and only read stuff he's in, or likewise for Superman, or Spiderman, or X-men. Not everything is an infinite never ending crossover. Make a good Superman movie without worrying about it leading into something else. Iron Man 1 was a great movie, and only the post credit scene teased anything else. Oh yeah, and ditch post credit scenes.

This is why I stopped reading the latest Batman issue. I read all the New 52 and liked it. VERY little cross over except the occasional issue. Then with Rebirth once it got to a cross over arc with all the other bat family stuff I just was like… dude I can’t buy 15 comics in one month to follow this story. I’m out.

then I never picked it back up.

As Stan Lee said, “every comic issue is someone’s first issue.” And you should write each one to where you don’t have to follow every single D+ show to know what’s going on.

disney got hella lazy and the adults who said “that’s not a good idea” were removed and replaced by DEI hires. Plain and simple.
 
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