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I rewatched the first episode with the wife to see if she liked it. The part where the USDA head is talking to her is the most infuriating thing I may have ever seen. Instead of asking for answers, she literally just starts yelling at them.

"Are there are questions for us, Carol? Anything at all?"
"Uh, uh, yeah, sure...I guess to start with, what the fuck is happening?"
"Well, basically..."
"It's an alien invasion, right? I mean, obviously it's an alien invasion."
"Actually, no, it is not"
"What the fuck it isn't. You know my name, you know Helen's name, you are talking to me from my TV. And what the fuck is with everybody's shit, like, and the two neighbor kids know where some god damn key is. How, how would they know that? Are you reading my mind?"

She gives zero shits about what's going on, or why her wife(?) is dead, or what any of it means. She's just going to yell and draw her own conclusions.
 
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She gives zero shits about what's going on, or why her wife(?) is dead, or what any of it means. She's just going to yell and draw her own conclusions.
It's like you've never interacted with a woman before.
 
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I rewatched the first episode with the wife to see if she liked it. The part where the USDA head is talking to her is the most infuriating thing I may have ever seen. Instead of asking for answers, she literally just starts yelling at them.

"Are there are questions for us, Carol? Anything at all?"
"Uh, uh, yeah, sure...I guess to start with, what the fuck is happening?"
"Well, basically..."
"It's an alien invasion, right? I mean, obviously it's an alien invasion."
"Actually, no, it is not"
"What the fuck it isn't. You know my name, you know Helen's name, you are talking to me from my TV. And what the fuck is with everybody's shit, like, and the two neighbor kids know where some god damn key is. How, how would they know that? Are you reading my mind?"

She gives zero shits about what's going on, or why her wife(?) is dead, or what any of it means. She's just going to yell and draw her own conclusions.

enjoy the show but this is my biggest problem as well

pretty sure she could pretzil logic then into releasing people or not turning her. Regardless, they are so open an immune should be able to figure out 99% of whats going on with a few hours of discourse, but i guess that wouldn't be a very long show

maybe the real journey is the look into the mind of a middle aged educated white woman, and it’s full of horrors.
 
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This chick is the most boring retard who ever could have been "one of the immune."

They are amicable and apparently 100% truthful and absolutely willing to answer any question, and have instant connection to literally all current human knowledge in existence. How in the fucking fuck fuck do you not immediately use this?

I'd spend a solid two weeks simply confirming/disconfirming anything I suspected to be true that we had no way of proving, especially regarding human behavior. Like I realize most of it is pretty irrelevant at this point, but I must be a weirdo who loves knowledge. And hey, on the off chance this is reversed somehow, it would be pretty great to know the truth of things. This is like ChatGPT but it actually knows things instead of just running retarded math algorithms on words.
  • Confirm Jeff Epstein status, he's probably still alive somewhere
  • Confirm all "intelligence agency" conspiracy theories
  • Confirm who really steers Western Civilization and the World
  • Confirm if vast majority or even all "gays" were abused as a child, spoiler alert
  • UFOs/Aliens
  • Lizard People
  • etc

God I'd have endless entertainment.

Pretty clever show other than the main character being so goddamn boring and retarded. As mentioned by others, it's surprisingly satisfying watching a bunch of humans work in perfect concert.
The how it should have ended could be pretty good for pluribus.



This show would be over in five minutes with a competent protagonist. And probably because the protagonist would trigger some pod people failsafe to just execute her once she started noticing too hard and became a risk.
 

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Pretty interesting theory and how the show links to the Twilight Zone.


Guess the magic of guessing, week to week, about a show like LOST almost 20 years ago are dead.

Someone will figure the shit out in a couple of weeks.

Oh well.
 
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yeah the main characters lesbian lover died from head on concrete, you see blood pooling under her head and in the truck her eyes have bruising around them which is a classic sign of skull fracture. Thats probably a big chunk of the 900 million people (+11m) that died, just accidental death for 5-10 mins of inactivity (falling, crashes, airplane falling, etc). They even had a line about how they first vectored astronauts, submarines, etc before the contrail stuff.

I binged through all 3 episodes and liked it. I think most normies don't realize you are supposed to hate the main character played by Kim Wexler (Rhea?). She is a massive narcissistic, self absorbed, mega Karen who only can think about herself. The entire sprouts scene captures that, she claims in one breath to be independent and do things on her own and doesn't want any help but she glibly accepts hundreds of people carting multiple trucks of groceries near her to support that "independent lifestyle". Not much different from all the retarded women who shop bougie and say they don't need no man but happily use an infrastructure maintained by men.

I like the base concept of the show so far, its way more sci fi than I thought it was gonna be but I went in completely blind, not even watching trailers. I don't see how this goes on for multiple seasons but I guess we'll see. I doubt we'll ever get to it but man the race that sent the signal must be fascinating, are they a hive mind or is a Dark Forest thing where they are actively pacifying potential threats?
 
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yeah the main characters lesbian lover died from head on concrete, you see blood pooling under her head and in the truck her eyes have bruising around them which is a classic sign of skull fracture.
Actually no, her head doesn't hit the concrete (this could have just been sloppy editing, she really falls and obviously the actress herself does not smash her head into concrete just to sell the scene, but her head never touches, she braces and lands squarely on her back then lays her head down) and there is zero blood where she fell, at all, not around the head, nowhere. What you see in the previous shot is literally a shadow.

You are confusing this with the dish washer in the kitchen at the bar they are in, he's clearly laying on the ground bleeding out of his mouth during his conversion. This could of been a head injury due to fall, or it could have been the reaction to the infection like Helen's (the wifes).

Again could be shitty editing maybe but i doubt it, I believe the implication is that the airborne variant or whatever they used to spread to the entire planet in a matter of minutes was not as safe and effective as the direct person to person transmission.

I'm fairly certain that 1 in 8 people on earth, almost 900million people, didn't just happen to be in some coincidentally compromising position where they would die from being out of it for 60 seconds, when each time carol does the thing it only kills like 11 million people. At any point in time at least 40% of the earth's human population is asleep in their bed, for example. There's no way on earth that the entire waking world was in the middle of some evil Knievel stunt just as the virus spread.

They even had a line about how they first vectored astronauts, submarines, etc before the contrail stuff.

That line was about how they managed to reach all the isolated people, like antartica, space station, etc. when carol was trying to find out how they were able to infect everyone and only a dozen immunes remained. It was really just a pre-emptive response to the audience's whataboutisms, it had nothing to do with safety, watch it again.
 
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Pretty interesting theory and how the show links to the Twilight Zone.


They are called TROPES for a reason.

But why doesn't it work on Carol if it also destroyed the alien homeworld of humanoids?
 
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Guess the magic of guessing, week to week, about a show like LOST almost 20 years ago are dead.

Someone will figure the shit out in a couple of weeks.

Oh well.
to be fair. the constant guessing with Lost is probably because there were no answers. if it was competent, and there were proper foreshadowing, and clues. people would have figured it out by going over it with a fine toothed comb.
a system of high def, and the ability to watch and rewatch, pause, etc of streaming.
 
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Actually no, her head doesn't hit the concrete (this could have just been sloppy editing, she really falls and obviously the actress herself does not smash her head into concrete just to sell the scene, but her head never touches, she braces and lands squarely on her back then lays her head down) and there is zero blood where she fell, at all, not around the head, nowhere. What you see in the previous shot is literally a shadow.

You are confusing this with the dish washer in the kitchen at the bar they are in, he's clearly laying on the ground bleeding out of his mouth during his conversion. This could of been a head injury due to fall, or it could have been the reaction to the infection like Helen's (the wifes).

Again could be shitty editing maybe but i doubt it, I believe the implication is that the airborne variant or whatever they used to spread to the entire planet in a matter of minutes was not as safe and effective as the direct person to person transmission.

I'm fairly certain that 1 in 8 people on earth, almost 900million people, didn't just happen to be in some coincidentally compromising position where they would die from being out of it for 60 seconds, when each time carol does the thing it only kills like 11 million people. At any point in time at least 40% of the earth's human population is asleep in their bed, for example. There's no way on earth that the entire waking world was in the middle of some evil Knievel stunt just as the virus spread.



That line was about how they managed to reach all the isolated people, like antartica, space station, etc. when carol was trying to find out how they were able to infect everyone and only a dozen immunes remained. It was really just a pre-emptive response to the audience's whataboutisms, it had nothing to do with safety, watch it again.
I'm on team "Helen died from hitting her head". at 1 minute:



My initial thought when I saw her fall was "she better not just be OK". Rewatching it I refute your assessment and think you should get your eyes checked if you don't think her head smacked the concrete. Her corpse also displayed trauma in the front of her face. I don't think the pod people are reliable narrators, but they also explicitly said she was 100% on board with being a pod person before she died.

Your point about 1 in 8 people dying is a good one though. 1/8th aren't going to bite it if we all freeze for 30s. It'll be closer to 1/80.
 
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Look i don't know where you watch it from, streaming or what not, but I torrent the episodes myself and thus have the file on my computer and have watched frame by frame. She lands on her back then rolls her head down (clearly visible even in the video you linked) and more importantly, there's no blood ever. you guys claimed she smashed her head and there was a huge pool of blood. There was zero blood. Plenty of other victims were shown and they did have blood, either from the virus, the fall, something landing on them during the commotion, etc. But Helen didn't hit her head hard enough to break the skin or produce any blood? I mean if there was some curb she hit or at some weird angle you could make an argument maybe, but that's not what happened. She landed hard on her back then rolled her head down flat.

You want to argue she had some sort of sub arachnoid bleed, subdermal hematoma or whatever the fuck, just from the impact that didnt break skin...sure ok, going with some obscure non-visually detectable form of death that usually takes days or hours to kill not minutes? I mean, fucking weird hill to die on, shitty choice in story telling, really bad writing I guess?

it's been a while since i watched any medical shows but i'm pretty sure you are 100% wrong in what the show was trying to convey. If they wanted to show that she died from the fall they could of easily made it quite obvious that she died from the fall. No, her and 1 out of every 8 other people on the earth died from the virus itself during the conversion process. I'm not about to get into the minutiae trying to reverse engineer exactly what time all this happened beyond "night time in Arizona" like 8-10pm? So like all of western europe, western africa, all of south america, and 90% of the population of north america was in their homes getting ready for or already in bed, there was no risk to them dying from circumstance during the conversion, it was the conversion itself that killed them and this is obvious.

Sure most of Asia was a awake but to kill 1/8 of the population solely from accidents you're talking everyone in asia was juggling fucking swords or something? even infants? get the fuck out of here and get some glasses.


Edit: The scene where she's meeting with the english speaking immunes from all over the world where they show us how many of their family members survived the conversion is further evidence, everyone lost multiple family members even if the entire house hold was safely tucked in to bed, you guys are just wrong about this.

Also the bar scene conversion shows that everyone freezes up, muscles lock up in place, even holding phones or pool cues or whatever, during the conversion they should not actually fall over unless they were in the middle of some movement that locking out your muscles wouldn't save you from. Its the same in the hospital when she arrives shortly before the entire conversion ends, they are all still locked in place, standing up, not falling down. moments later they wake up and are the hive mind. Only the people who didn't convert properly lose muscle control and fall over just before they die.
 
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They are called TROPES for a reason.

But why doesn't it work on Carol if it also destroyed the alien homeworld of humanoids?
If you believe that guys video she's a descendant of the alien that was immune and came to Earth. I think it could just be she's a miserable bitch. But who knows!
 
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I'm on team "Helen died from hitting her head". at 1 minute:



My initial thought when I saw her fall was "she better not just be OK". Rewatching it I refute your assessment and think you should get your eyes checked if you don't think her head smacked the concrete. Her corpse also displayed trauma in the front of her face. I don't think the pod people are reliable narrators, but they also explicitly said she was 100% on board with being a pod person before she died.

Your point about 1 in 8 people dying is a good one though. 1/8th aren't going to bite it if we all freeze for 30s. It'll be closer to 1/80.


It wasn't 30 seconds though - the initial takeover lasted long enough for Carol to panic, steal a truck, load wife into the truck, drive her to hospital and then explore emergency room. Seems more like 20-30 min. Even the scene we saw on the show was more than 10 minutes.

For Helen - there's no blood, but skull fracture and/or brain trauma seem perfectly plausible as cause of death.
 
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yeah the takeover times are weird, sometimes it makes it seem like its 1 min and other times it feels like its a good 15 mins. anyways minor quibbles the lore/world is pretty interesting, i wish we had more of Black Pimp Kramer though he's the best character on the show

i appreciate him not being racist and taking all colors of the rainbow for his ho brigade, but no fatties. It seems like whatever makes them immune isn't genetic since indian lady's kid was absorbed.

it did make me wonder though, like if you are say Kim Wexler and you wanna dyke out with pirate lady, if she wasn't a dyke before (maybe even a Muslim) isn't it morally wrong to turn her into a dyke dildo for you. Or since all humans are now a hive mind is it all the same
 

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I took it as the "take over" was a wave that propagated through out the population of the earth at the speed of wind/air, since we know the hive mind is a virus made out of the 4 DNA nucleotides it is clearly a physical thing, a self replicating molecule, ie a Virus. it's not like a radio broadcast or ESP or some shit that can be broadcast all over the earth simultaneously.

I kinda assumed it was dispersed via chemtrails which were the airplanes they watched fly overhead just before the infection hit their area. also i'm assuming the hive had pre-staged dispersing materials on each continent and they all "started" simultaneously as soon as they realized the humans had discovered them and the military was trying to fight back, but overall it should have still taken at least an hour or three to cover everyone.

That's why the dude in the truck was hit first and he was down for about a minute or so before he snapped out of it. Yes she threw hellen in the back and then hightailed it to the city but it's likely she arrived at the hospital they were still "converting" because they had received their chem trail fly over 5 minutes after the bar area did.

The "takeover" seems to have taken no more than 15minutes at most but most likely like 1-5 minutes.
 
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