Project Epoch - WoW Classic+

sadris said:

It would be nice if AtlasLoot showed this to be true. Right now AtlasLoot-Epoch shows that tradeskills are just as garbage as they were 20 years ago.

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Atlas isn't even working for me, so I can't verify, lol. I definitely got the right one.

Burren said:

I will say, lvl 17 warrior is super hard to solo compared to old classic. Heal after every mob.

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I had thought warrior was relatively untouched compared to TWOW's warrior.

So I rolled one and I did notice DPS classes doing things around me at 1-2 lower levels than me and not coming near death. I'm beaten to an inch of life per mob, and the risk is always there, like you said.

Does this get better as we get more kit? Seriously considering a reroll because that type of gameplay loop for 20-60 is something I'd consider unfun. I don't expect warrior to behave like a level 40 Rogue sustain build right out of the gate swinging from mob to mob and healing/doing massive dmg, but being beaten to an inch of life per mob while other DPS specs race through content isn't exactly it either.

jayrebb said:

I had thought warrior was relatively untouched compared to TWOW's warrior.

So I rolled one and I did notice DPS classes doing things around me at 1-2 lower levels than me and not coming near death. I'm beaten to an inch of life per mob, and the risk is always there, like you said.

Does this get better as we get more kit? Seriously considering a reroll because that type of gameplay loop for 20-60 is something I'd consider unfun. I don't expect warrior to behave like a level 40 Rogue sustain build right out of the gate swinging from mob to mob and healing/doing massive dmg, but being beaten to an inch of life per mob while other DPS specs race through content isn't exactly it either.

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Man, I hope it gets better. I'm definitely better geared than average and I have to fight mobs 2 levels lower or else.

Embarrassing while questing also. Had this shaman duo with me clearing to an objective in Barrens, and it was clear he was doing 90% of the work and my "tanking" and participation was completely unnecessary. Me getting beaten to an inch of life seemed to not really add much. The shaman would just go ahead of me and start burning shit down and take less damage and kill faster than if I stuck my face in there. Felt like me even pretending I'm doing something was a distraction to his greatness and subtracting from the team. I sheepishly thanked him for the carry afterward since he essentially did the quest for me.

Indeed hope it gets better, because I was told TWOW's warrior was the nerfed one, and it's been a bit of a face slap so far on Epoch.

Were Warriors ever good in any iteration of Classic before they could wear plate at lvl 40?

I get they were end game giants but during leveling i thought they were always pure pain until plate

Khane said:

Were Warriors ever good in any iteration of Classic before they could wear plate at lvl 40?

I get they were end game giants but during leveling i thought they were always pure pain until plate

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My memory might be bad, but I don’t remember it being this harsh. Jay is right about the grouping thing. I was with a Shaman for 5 quests and he definitely did two thirds of the damage and didn’t get hurt, despite being a leather class.

Khane said:

Were Warriors ever good in any iteration of Classic before they could wear plate at lvl 40?

I get they were end game giants but during leveling i thought they were always pure pain until plate

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1-20 was always the weed-out levels for warriors. Once they hit 20 and can dungeon spam, they start their real power curve. And yes, at 40-60 they become the machines we all remember.

Kaines said:

1-20 was always the weed-out levels for warriors. Once they hit 20 and can dungeon spam, they start their real power curve. And yes, at 40-60 they become the machines we all remember.

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I’m fired up to dungeon spam. They have all been overhauled and improved.

Anyone have a working tooltip mod? I download TipTac and it has some weird graphical glitches.