Project Epoch - WoW Classic+

Burren

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It would be nice if AtlasLoot showed this to be true. Right now AtlasLoot-Epoch shows that tradeskills are just as garbage as they were 20 years ago.
Atlas isn't even working for me, so I can't verify, lol. I definitely got the right one.
 

jayrebb

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I will say, lvl 17 warrior is super hard to solo compared to old classic. Heal after every mob.

I had thought warrior was relatively untouched compared to TWOW's warrior.

So I rolled one and I did notice DPS classes doing things around me at 1-2 lower levels than me and not coming near death. I'm beaten to an inch of life per mob, and the risk is always there, like you said.

Does this get better as we get more kit? Seriously considering a reroll because that type of gameplay loop for 20-60 is something I'd consider unfun. I don't expect warrior to behave like a level 40 Rogue sustain build right out of the gate swinging from mob to mob and healing/doing massive dmg, but being beaten to an inch of life per mob while other DPS specs race through content isn't exactly it either.
 

Burren

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I had thought warrior was relatively untouched compared to TWOW's warrior.

So I rolled one and I did notice DPS classes doing things around me at 1-2 lower levels than me and not coming near death. I'm beaten to an inch of life per mob, and the risk is always there, like you said.

Does this get better as we get more kit? Seriously considering a reroll because that type of gameplay loop for 20-60 is something I'd consider unfun. I don't expect warrior to behave like a level 40 Rogue sustain build right out of the gate swinging from mob to mob and healing/doing massive dmg, but being beaten to an inch of life per mob while other DPS specs race through content isn't exactly it either.
Man, I hope it gets better. I'm definitely better geared than average and I have to fight mobs 2 levels lower or else.
 

jayrebb

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Embarrassing while questing also. Had this shaman duo with me clearing to an objective in Barrens, and it was clear he was doing 90% of the work and my "tanking" and participation was completely unnecessary. Me getting beaten to an inch of life seemed to not really add much. The shaman would just go ahead of me and start burning shit down and take less damage and kill faster than if I stuck my face in there. Felt like me even pretending I'm doing something was a distraction to his greatness and subtracting from the team. I sheepishly thanked him for the carry afterward since he essentially did the quest for me.

Indeed hope it gets better, because I was told TWOW's warrior was the nerfed one, and it's been a bit of a face slap so far on Epoch.
 

Khane

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Were Warriors ever good in any iteration of Classic before they could wear plate at lvl 40?

I get they were end game giants but during leveling i thought they were always pure pain until plate
 

Burren

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Were Warriors ever good in any iteration of Classic before they could wear plate at lvl 40?

I get they were end game giants but during leveling i thought they were always pure pain until plate
My memory might be bad, but I don’t remember it being this harsh. Jay is right about the grouping thing. I was with a Shaman for 5 quests and he definitely did two thirds of the damage and didn’t get hurt, despite being a leather class.
 

Kaines

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Were Warriors ever good in any iteration of Classic before they could wear plate at lvl 40?

I get they were end game giants but during leveling i thought they were always pure pain until plate
1-20 was always the weed-out levels for warriors. Once they hit 20 and can dungeon spam, they start their real power curve. And yes, at 40-60 they become the machines we all remember.
 
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Burren

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1-20 was always the weed-out levels for warriors. Once they hit 20 and can dungeon spam, they start their real power curve. And yes, at 40-60 they become the machines we all remember.
I’m fired up to dungeon spam. They have all been overhauled and improved.
 
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LiquidDeath

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Anyone have a working tooltip mod? I download TipTac and it has some weird graphical glitches.
 

Springbok

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Gnome Lock Springbok. Got to 5 and out of town until Thursday then poop socking all weekend
 
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Sylas

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uh guys you understand this is TBC balance right? This isn't vanilla warriors. iirc warriors got punished for their vanilla god mode for pretty much the rest of the game from TBC on. They are better in WOTLK but they never reclaimed the glory they held in classic. I kept saying over and over you need to understand just because you are limited to kalimdor and eastern kingdoms does not make this vanilla.

If you rolled a warrior for any purpose other than to be a tank in epoch/tbc then you prolly should think about rerolling
 
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Burren

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Can’t, pot committed now. If I’m not top DPS in raids that’s ok. I like the class.
 
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TJT

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uh guys you understand this is TBC balance right? This isn't vanilla warriors. iirc warriors got punished for their vanilla god mode for pretty much the rest of the game from TBC on. They are better in WOTLK but they never reclaimed the glory they held in classic. I kept saying over and over you need to understand just because you are limited to kalimdor and eastern kingdoms does not make this vanilla.

If you rolled a warrior for any purpose other than to be a tank in epoch/tbc then you prolly should think about rerolling
It may shock you that some people play a class for reasons other than being lol top dps or something.
 

Sylas

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It may shock you that some people play a class for reasons other than being lol top dps or something.
People who feel that way don't immediately jump into a thread wondering why their warrior is so weak having expected to roflstomp through vanilla for the 5th time in a row execute spamming to the top
 
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TJT

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They are talking about low level. Early game warrior always sucked hard.
 
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Hatorade

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Bros, tradeskills are powerful on Epoch. Highly suggest everyone have a crafting skill that aligns with your class/role.
Yes and keep all gems, every profession needs them. 2 tigereyes to make some green mail with stats.
 
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Burren

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Yes and keep all gems, every profession needs them. 2 tigereyes to make some green mail with stats.
I'm making good progress in smithing. Tons of cool shit to make. LMK if you need anything and we can meet up near Wailing Caverns. Are we allowed cross-faction mail?