Science!! Fucking magnets, how do they work?

Basically what they said.

Also, the idea that I'm "deflecting" means you believe that gravitational waves not existing would have a very minimal impact on GR as a whole. That's really not the case. Gravitational radiation not existing would dramatically alter one of the most rock solid scientific theories there is.

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We don't actuallyknowfurry's position because all he's said is, "EVERYONE ELSE IS WRONG!"

You don't need to have a better model to point at the flaws of a model.

Anyway... I was reading about the tools they use to try and detect gravity waves: basically they split a laser in two, have each half go and bounce on a mirror with paths that are orthogonal and of the same length, join the two half and then check if the laser is still in synch. If it is not: gravity wave! Well... that's if the experiment took place in a fictional space, because in a lab on planet earth, the detection is massively polluted by seismic activity, so I am not too sure how they do to find the signal in the noise (one of the things they do now is comparing data from multiple experiments that run at the same time around the globe).

From a layman perspective, the other question that sprung to my mind is that: if it's a wave in the space-time continuum, maybe the distance is affected, but also the speed at which time elapses, keeping the laser synchronized even if both half did not travel the same distance?

jooka_sl said:

I used to like this thread, somehow hodj and furry ruined it.

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Hodj truly makes it unreadable unless you scroll past him fast enough. Luckily no one gives a fuck about him enough to respond to him more than once.

Tuco_sl said:

I don't really understand gravity waves, but if the effects of gravity don't emanate from some body of mass at the speed of light in a way that can be conceived of as waves, how else would they travel? Do people think they travel instantaneously through some interdimensional effect? Or is Furry's position simply that we haven't experimentally proven the existence of gravity waves, therefore the people who assume they exist are wrong?

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Yes, they would be instantaneous which goes against all observable data we have. He has no alternative theories other than everything we know about physics is wrong and he's right. Them not existing would also invalidate General Relativity which has passed every test that's been thrown at it for the last 100 years. They've been experimentally proven to a very high degree of certainly, just have not been directly observed due to their very nature.

The irony is he doesn't believe QE for the exact opposite reason. Direct observable data that appears to show something happening FTL. His reasoning was a cop out "Freedom-of-choice" loophole, meaning we don't actually have free will and everything we do is predetermined. It's one of those pointless philosophical ideas stoners come up with and think they're deep thinkers

Draegan_sl said:

Hodj truly makes it unreadable unless you scroll past him fast enough. Luckily no one gives a fuck about him enough to respond to him more than once.

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How can you jump into this thread and attack Hodj, while Furry has sidetracked pretty much any talk of QM everytime it is brought up? Come on bro.

It's Draegan.