Scottish Independence

Running Dog_sl

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Yeah, but to be fair the NHS is all kinds of fucked up, and all of it is primarily the English fault.

There's a lot of other things to complain about, but damn, the NHS is scary. Fortunately Obama is basically implementing the same thing here without taking a look at the problems in the UK.
For this year?s survey on overall health care, The Commonwealth Fund ranked the U.S. dead last .

1. United Kingdom
2. Switzerland
3. Sweden
4. Australia
5. Germany & Netherlands (tied)
7. New Zealand & Norway (tied)
9. France
10. Canada
11. United States

It?s fairly well accepted that the U.S. is the most expensive healthcare system in the world, but many continue to falsely assume that we pay more for healthcare because we get better health (or better health outcomes). The evidence, however, clearly doesn?t support that view.
U.S. Healthcare Ranked Dead Last Compared To 10 Other Countries - Forbes
 

Borzak

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It is disingenuous to say something is dead last, when you only count the top 10/11 out of 190+ countries.

American media, can you ever been no biased?
How many of those countries have 1/3 that fit right into the Brown/Ferguson looters and rioters thread we have here.
 

Cad

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How many of those countries have 1/3 that fit right into the Brown/Ferguson looters and rioters thread we have here.
Not that it makes it ok, but I'd bet if you compare the healthcare the upper 80% of the population wealth wise gets (so exclude the bottom 20% of every country) the U.S. would be on top. I don't know if such a study exists.
 

Ossoi

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Yeah, but to be fair the NHS is all kinds of fucked up, and all of it is primarily the English fault.

There's a lot of other things to complain about, but damn, the NHS is scary. Fortunately Obama is basically implementing the same thing here without taking a look at the problems in the UK.
The most clueless, uninformed comment of this thread.

Ask any British person if they would trade the NHS for the American system, and the answer would be 100% no.

Ask any American who has lived in the UK and used the NHS...in fact I might just do that over on reddit.[Serious]Americans who live in the UK and use the NHS, what are your opinions? Did it change your opinion of social healthcare systems? : AskReddit
 

Chukzombi

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Well any system even if its run by socialists as long as its a well thought out and implemented system is going to be superior to the deceptive shitshow of a trainwteck healthcare system thats just a huge tax burden on hardworking americans
 

Quineloe

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It is disingenuous to say something is dead last, when you only count the top 10/11 out of 190+ countries.

American media, can you ever been no biased?
How is eleventh place acceptable for NUMBER ONE NUMBER ONE NUMBER ONE?

Also, that place isn't even taking into account that US healthcare is twice as expensive as the next ones.
 

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News from The Associated Press

Alex Salmond, Scotland's outgoing independence leader, accused politicians in London of reneging on their promises to hand more power to Scots in a rare cross-party pact that he said played a crucial role in swinging the votes in favor of union in Thursday's vote.

His comments came after Prime Minister David Cameron stressed that plans to empower Scots should be linked to constitutional reform in England - a stance that fractured the fragile political consensus and drew attacks from across the spectrum.

Just days earlier, Cameron and his political rivals had joined together in a vow to quickly pass laws to transfer key decision-making powers from London to Scotland's capital, Edinburgh. All three party leaders signed off on the pledge, which promised Scots new powers to decide on their tax, budget and welfare policies.

Since then, Cameron said those changes must be made "in tandem" with reform in the House of Commons to bar Scottish lawmakers from having a say on bills that only apply to England and Wales - a longstanding grievance that has come to the fore amid the debate.

He also said it won't be fair to devolve powers to Scotland without considering similar changes in the rest of the kingdom - England, Wales and Northern Ireland.

"Millions of people in the rest of the U.K. have been listening to these debates, watching this campaign and rightly asking: `What will change for us? Why can't we have the same powers and the same rights as those in Scotland?'" Cameron wrote in the Mail on Sunday newspaper.

Critics say that throwing all those questions into one basket dilutes the three leaders' joint pledge, and will inevitably delay the timetable of the promised return of powers to Scotland.
 

Siliconemelons

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I have to resist so much rolling down the window at stop lights and ask the "I <3 OBAMACARE" bumpersticker people how its working out for them?
 

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