Secret Invasion

velk said:

Huh, I stand corrected. I've even watched most of them.

You know, I think Secret Invasion *is* the worst of those actually.

I haven't seen the werewolf one, but FAWS had movie tier action sequences, She Hulk was funny-ish, Loki was just good, Wandavision tried something different and it mostly worked, Hawkeye was just good, and What If? was interesting with a few good ones. I wasn't really the target market for Ms Marvel, and SI has no such excuse. Moon Knight was a bit 'eh' overall, but I give it credit for a fantastic first episode - if the rest of it had been up to that it could have been great fun.

Even if you didn't want to commit to 'worst' I think I could certainly make an argument for 'most bland' of all of those.

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Hoss said:

The only way anyone could honestly say this is if their eyes skipped over the top entry on the list. Falcon and Winter Soldier was and still is the hands down worst of the marvel series. Well, i did't watch werewolf by night so it's feasible that's the worst. Secret invasion was better than moon knight too, so it's 3rd from the bottom.

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j00t said:

naw, faws had bucky being awesome, and some pretty great action scenes. also dancing zemo AUTOMATICALLY makes it required watching.

that's why people hate faws so much, because it had enough great parts that gave the show whiplash in quality. but all of secret invasion is just... boring and no good

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Chukzombi said:

i dunno. the wakanda bitches disabled his arm easily and then they showed him apologizing to falcon for being white. even had the gall to include Cap in it. it was pretty infuriating in every episode. especially the bubba gump shrimpin boat captain subplot.

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j00t said:

notice how dialogue wasn't something i praised?

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Chukzombi said:

just saying, its an embarrassing show for everyone, including the viewing audience.

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j00t said:

yes, 100% i agree. there are just parts that are good enough that make it worth watching. everyone i know who started FAWS finished it. they were upset by it, but they finished it. how many people finished secret invasion?

that's my point. secret invasion is awful from start to finish. well, the first episode is alright in a bubble, but knowing where it's all going makes it awful in retrospect.

FAWS having awful dialogue and terrible moments with shrimpin' boats and black gingers doesn't take away that the first action scene is really pretty great, and bucky is still awesome.

edit: you know, i'd entertain the argument that FAWS is worse because it has good highlights that show it can be entertaining, which makes how awful it all is feel that much worse. whereas secret invasion never peaks like that. it starts sort of meh and just rides the awful coaster down into the trash.

edit2: i still contend that FAWS is better because it gave us this

secret invasion isn't even meme worthy

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Hoss said:

And how long did that last? 5 seconds of the entire series that was OK instead of godawful? Whereas SI was a consistent mediocre all the way through. You're just suppressing the trauma that was falcon and the winter soldier. Like a child who was molested by his dad and all you can remember is that one time he took you fishing for 30 minutes.

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j00t said:

naw, faws had bucky being awesome

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j00t said:

yes, 100% i agree. there are just parts that are good enough that make it worth watching. everyone i know who started FAWS finished it. they were upset by it, but they finished it. how many people finished secret invasion?

that's my point. secret invasion is awful from start to finish. well, the first episode is alright in a bubble, but knowing where it's all going makes it awful in retrospect.

FAWS having awful dialogue and terrible moments with shrimpin' boats and black gingers doesn't take away that the first action scene is really pretty great, and bucky is still awesome.

edit: you know, i'd entertain the argument that FAWS is worse because it has good highlights that show it can be entertaining, which makes how awful it all is feel that much worse. whereas secret invasion never peaks like that. it starts sort of meh and just rides the awful coaster down into the trash.

edit2: i still contend that FAWS is better because it gave us this

secret invasion isn't even meme worthy

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